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| Quote ="BostonSpaTiger"Hull FC remind me of Leeds in the Eighties. They are throwing vast amounts of money about, trying to buy good players, but are still failing to win anything. I am not sure if Gentle is the man for the job and if Pearson thinks that he can buy success, he is mistaken.'"
What a stupid post!
How are we throwing money about? We've only offered a fee for Chase and that deal doesn't even look as though it's going to happen. Holdsworth came for free as did Galea, Ellis and Arundel.
We've signed alot of players for next season, but you say we've still failed to win anything so I don't get that especially when we haven't thrown money about at all.
As for Gentle he is a great coach and has done wonders with a pretty average squad.
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| Quote ="tb"Didn't Ian Millward say earlier this month something along the lines of "I've spoken to the board and said there's no way I want to be looking for a No 6 come October, They said plan on him (Rangi) being a Castleford player next year"?'"
Oh I get it Cas never really wanted to sell him but were worried about the renewal of his visa, now that Hull have possibly resolved that for them (and/or it has been resolved through his marriage), then there is no need to let him go, unless of course somebody did offer a massive fee!
Well I don't think the fat lady has started to warm up her vocal chords on this one yet, never mind bursting into song, so a few more twists and turns yet methinks!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"What a stupid post!
How are we throwing money about? We've only offered a fee for Chase and that deal doesn't even look as though it's going to happen. Holdsworth came for free as did Galea, Ellis and Arundel.
We've signed alot of players for next season, but you say we've still failed to win anything so I don't get that especially when we haven't thrown money about at all.
As for Gentle he is a great coach and has done wonders with a pretty average squad.'"
Holdsworth had a year to run on his Salford contract didn't he? I thought a fee was paid to secure his release.
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| Nope, he was released from Salford by mutual agreement.
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| Quote ="WirralViking"Rightly or wrongly the impression I have got from afar is that Cas have been recruiting on the basis that Chase (or at least the cost of Chase's contract) would not be at the Club in 2013.'"
Wrongly.
Cas have lost what, 10 players for next season and that is the money that has been spent to replace players.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Are we?
Feel free to give actual figures.'"
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Perhaps AP has been frightened off, =#FF0000the thought of being reported for tapping up two players in a month or so may have put him in his place?
Big time soccer Charlie!!!!'"
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"What a stupid post!
How are we throwing money about? We've only offered a fee for Chase and that deal doesn't even look as though it's going to happen. Holdsworth came for free as did Galea, Ellis and Arundel. We've signed alot of players for next season, but you say we've still failed to win anything so I don't get that especially when we haven't thrown money about at all.
As for Gentle he is a great coach and has done wonders with a pretty average squad.'"
Sorry to burst your bubble - but Hull FC have paid a fee for Joe Arundel.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Sorry to burst your bubble - but Hull FC have paid a fee for Joe Arundel.'"
Only because he's under 23 or what ever the age limit is. Otherwise we wouldn't of paid a fee for him.
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| Quote ="WirralViking"Oh I get it Cas never really wanted to sell him but were worried about the renewal of his visa, now that Hull have possibly resolved that for them (and/or it has been resolved through his marriage), then there is no need to let him go, unless of course somebody did offer a massive fee!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Only because he's under 23 or what ever the age limit is. Otherwise we wouldn't of paid a fee for him.'"
Therefore you've paid a fee for one player and offered a fee for a second...doh!
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| Quote ="WirralViking"Just for the uninitiated then, assuming that the "complications" involved in the possible transfer of Chase to Hull, mean it doesn't happen, what happens to him then?
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He remains at Castleford as he has a visa to play for Castleford for the duration of his contract (another 3 years).
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| Quote ="Fumper27"He remains at Castleford as he has a visa to play for Castleford for the duration of his contract (another 3 years).'"
No he doesn't, Visa are valid for 30 months regardless. We may have a problem when this arises.
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| Chase's visa with Cas Tigers runs out at the end on 2013.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"No he doesn't, Visa are valid for 30 months regardless. We may have a problem when this arises.'"
37 months actually (3 years plus 1 month) but under transitional arrangements, he could then apply for a further 2 years to stay until a total of 5 years have been reached.
After 5 years (or 3 years if he is married to a British citizen) he can apply for British citizenship....
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| Quote ="Fully"37 months actually (3 years plus 1 month) but under transitional arrangements, he could then apply for a further 2 years to stay until a total of 5 years have been reached.
After 5 years (or 3 years if he is married to a British citizen) he can apply for British citizenship....'"
... And I believe he got married last week
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| Quote ="tb"... And I believe he got married last week'"
He did, the club Tweeted about it.
And just for the conspiracy theorists/trolls...they got engaged a fair while ago.
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| I don't think there are many Hull fans who believe he'll be playing for us next season.
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| If you look on the Hull FC board they think the Chase is over and have given up on signing him. One poster even states they have "lost" him. How arrogant.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"If you look on the Hull FC board they think the Chase is over and have given up on signing him. One poster even states they have "lost" him. How arrogant.
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"Lost him" "Missed him" Binned him" Who cares if, at the end of the day, we get to say "kept him". May be a blow to the BOD looking for a cash injection and saving but good news to fans convinced that little or none of any Chase money would be invested in a half decent replacement.
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| Quote ="smoking monkey""Lost him" "Missed him" Binned him" Who cares if, at the end of the day, we get to say "kept him". May be a blow to the BOD looking for a cash injection and saving but good news to fans convinced that little or none of any Chase money would be invested in a half decent replacement.'"
I'm not a troll and this is a serious question.
Do you think Cas can afford to keep and pay Chases wages next year??
I think you are recruiting quite well, and maybe expected Chases wages not to be on ya wage bill next year?!
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| Quote ="BIGARR"I'm not a troll and this is a serious question.
Do you think Cas can afford to keep and pay Chases wages next year??
I think you are recruiting quite well, and maybe expected Chases wages not to be on ya wage bill next year?!'"
In the current climate I would say no - we cannot afford him. If however we can get our fan base up to something like it was in 2011 I would say its achievable. It all depends if the stay-away fans can be tempted to come back with the new membership scheme. 2012 was about 1,000 down on 2011's attendances.
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| Quote ="BIGARR"I'm not a troll and this is a serious question.
Do you think Cas can afford to keep and pay Chases wages next year??
I think you are recruiting quite well, and maybe expected Chases wages not to be on ya wage bill next year?!'"
No, that's why I said it would be a blow to the board if the Hull deal fell through. As for our recruiting 'quite well' in expectation of Chase being off the books....so far about twice as many out than in and most of those arriving will be on less than say Ferres, Orr, McGoldrick and Hudson.
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| Quote ="BIGARR"I'm not a troll and this is a serious question.
Do you think Cas can afford to keep and pay Chases wages next year??
I think you are recruiting quite well, and maybe expected Chases wages not to be on ya wage bill next year?!'"
Yes, we can.
Recruitment has nothing to do with Chase. We have had 13 players leave us either out of contract or released including some of our higher earners.
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| I would imagine as fully says the players off rosta will make a huge difference.
Gilmour and walker i would imagine would be on decent contracts, Hauraki less so.
No idea on the aussie winger, probably on a good screw.
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