Which club currently has £1m of cap space to accommodate a top union player? The more realistic option would be to target the lads who are on the lowest RU wages and get their wages driven up, but then you run the risk of RL clubs paying well over the odds for some fat mess who can't play league. I can't see a scenario where league would win in a battle of players switching codes, so we need to look at ways to retain our current players and prevent them for being able to come back if they do decide to leave. Without a safety net, I don't think many RL players would take the plunge into union

Doesn't matter who has the space. Why fight with one hand tied behind our backs? If we have to make a cap exemption for George ford. Do it. The principle is already in the regulations.

In this scenario the can get Solomona for nothing. So they can get everyone else for nothing. The ban on returning didn't stop RU players moving to RL years ago. It's not going to work for us now.

The difference was that RU players moved because they needed a formal contract and a wage which wasn't available at the time in union, they were being paid in RU but it was in a brown envelope, and mortgage advisors don't take brown envelopes into account when you're trying to buy a house.

Lets's face it, it's mainly wingers where the risk is, as that is the most transferable position. Union wingers always did well in league, but other positions didn't transfer as well. It will be the same for league to union. It's not the switch that is the problem but the method used. There is no great crisis, certainly no greater than the player drain that was going on anyway. Players have been transferring to union regularly for the last ten years. All that has changed is that there no longer seems a need to wait for a contract to end. Cas and the RFL going after Denny personally might change that, as well as the acceptance that returning will involve coming under a cloud.

When Harris went to union, it was effectively a loan agreement, with a year remaining on the contract with Leeds, which would come into effect as soon the loan ended (which is what stiffed Bradford). The RFL and Cas have two options:
1. Sue for breach of contract, which will bring an end to the contract, meaning that if he failed (or got bored) in union, he could sign immediately with Wigan or whoever or for an NRL club (greater likelihood).
2. Not sue but have the RFL determine that Cas still hold two years of his registration, so that he can only return to Cas if he returns to league (or Cas get a transfer fee).

As the latter may scupper any hopes of an NRL career for two years after leaving union, the latter may prove a more tempting solution for the RFL, as it may prove to be a greater disincentive to other players.

Proving breach of contract doesn't mean Cas surrender his registration. They can both sue him and hold is rfl registration.

That is probably the way forward. He might be thinking of trying out for union and then heading for the NRL if it doesn't work out, or if he gets a better offer. Cas keeping the registration will make his move an all or nothing. That in itself might be enough of an incentive to make players wait to the end of their contracts.

What it doesn't do, however, is deal with the player drain out of the Super League.

Cas have currently got a 'hot property' but if he goes off to RU for say 9 months, fails miserably then tries to return to RL, then Cas (by retaining his registration) will likely get just a fraction of his current value assuming another RL club wants to sign him.

As opposed to nothing if they give it up though.

The first step should be ridding the game of Solomona's agent, Andy Clarke.
He is under investigation by the RFL, but the SL clubs should be refusing to do business with him whilst this is ongoing, and if he is found to be guilty of any offence. This would result in his current players being forced to leave him and find a more respectable agent to represent them.
Also worth considering that Andy Clarke's brother, Phil Clarke, probably stands to profit from this. He jointly owns the company who represent Solomona. I wonder how Sky feel about one of their employees making profit by stripping the assets of a sport they hold the broadcasting contract for?

Ultimately, Castleford don't want him back now. He has shown himself to be the lowest of the low. Cas just need to use the legal options available to persue Solomona.
If Castleford begin an ET case against him and they find he has breached his contract, he is facing a significant financial loss. If I were in Denny Solomona's shoes, I'd be a worried man.

Sale have now registered him as part of their Champions Cup squad: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/37908110

Sale have now registered him as part of their Champions Cup squad: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/37908110

Quote ="shinymcshine"Sale have now registered him as part of their Champions Cup squad: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/37908110'" Classy move. I hope we start the ball rolling now and serve some litigation - whether that's Denny, Sale, his agent or what. Dirty little weasels, the lot of them.

Quote ="shinymcshine"Sale have now registered him as part of their Champions Cup squad: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/37908110'" Classy move. I hope we start the ball rolling now and serve some litigation - whether that's Denny, Sale, his agent or what. Dirty little weasels, the lot of them.

What litigation? On what grounds? There is only one person at fault here, no one else.

Regards

King James

Breach of contract against Denny, and possibly his agent, in that he is a party to that contract. One of the orders that can be obtained is an order for specific performance, namely that the player must perform the contract. Alternatively, the cost of a transfer fee that they could have got for him, most likely whatever sum Sale offered (if any) or whatever it would cost Cas to recruit a record-breaking winger in his early twenties, as well as any other quantifiable loss.

The RFL need to ruin Denny financially and leave Sale alone, to stop other players doing the same.

You, on the other hand, should stop fantasising about playing at an online persona who revels in posting persistently negative comments and signing off in a ridiculous way. Certainly,you should stop commenting on an apparent legal vacuum, which is what you seem to be referring to, unless you know something about the law. I'm guessing you don't.

Haha looks like Sale getting beat every week and a cup match looming and having a record breaking winger training with them has made them crack, now they have made the foolish decision to sign Solomona we can take them to court too, I won't be happy unless Cas get £500,000 for him and I hope he gets fed up and quits after a year like most do, thier owner really does have more money than sense.
Amatures indeed.

Eh? I can see the case against Solonona for a contractual breach, but I can't see it against Sale. There is no cross code registration rules, even if there was, that would be a matter for sports ruling bodies not a court of law.

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Breach of contract against Denny, and possibly his agent, in that he is a party to that contract. One of the orders that can be obtained is an order for specific performance, namely that the player must perform the contract. Alternatively, the cost of a transfer fee that they could have got for him, most likely whatever sum Sale offered (if any) or whatever it would cost Cas to recruit a record-breaking winger in his early twenties, as well as any other quantifiable loss. The RFL need to ruin Denny financially and leave Sale alone, to stop other players doing the same. '" Agree. Although, Inducing breach of contract>>> articles.rollingsons.co.uk/2012/ ... tract.html

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Breach of contract against Denny, and possibly his agent, in that he is a party to that contract. One of the orders that can be obtained is an order for specific performance, namely that the player must perform the contract. Alternatively, the cost of a transfer fee that they could have got for him, most likely whatever sum Sale offered (if any) or whatever it would cost Cas to recruit a record-breaking winger in his early twenties, as well as any other quantifiable loss. The RFL need to ruin Denny financially and leave Sale alone, to stop other players doing the same. '" Agree. Although, Inducing breach of contract>>> articles.rollingsons.co.uk/2012/ ... tract.html

It would be particularly difficult to prove that Sale induced him to breach this contract. Even with the evidence of a Sale vehicle parked on his drive and Solomona at their training ground, they could just claim he was discussing terms for the 2019 season, when his contract would end.
It is Solomona who, it seems, has breached his contract. Castleford should pursue him as an individual for the financial loss his breach of contract has caused. It's not an exact science, but ETs make much more complex decisions that in this case. Castleford will be able to submit to an ET the offers made for Solomona from other clubs, evidence of the loss of direct player sponsorship and the increase in salary he took on the basis of staying at the club to 2019 when he signed a new contract in 2015.
If Castleford win the case, Solomona will need very deep pockets.

Based on the fact that Sale have registered Solomona as a Sale player for this season's European competition aI think having them for inducing breach of contract is an absolute slam dunk. Having read that article the case ticks every single box with a big fat marker pen.

Something just doesn't add up for me regarding this sorry tale.

With the ongoing investigation being very public, why would Sale implicate themselves so blatantly?

Either they know something we don't or they're devoid of any financial acumen.

If they don't register, he doesn't play. If he doesn't play, he's an expensive hassle.

is there a lawyers forum , a forum for lawyers where they could discuss this lol

Quote ="mrpurfect"is there a lawyers forum , a forum for lawyers where they could discuss this lol'" Seek and you will find MrPurfect :- www.thelawforum.co.uk/

Quote ="mrpurfect"is there a lawyers forum , a forum for lawyers where they could discuss this lol'" Seek and you will find MrPurfect :- www.thelawforum.co.uk/

At last ! Nigel Wood speaks on the subject :- www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8278949

At last ! Nigel Wood speaks on the subject :- www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8278949

I saw that but look how often people reply to posts, the court case would be over before you got a debate going.

Yes. You would be better off going on CasForum. We've just hit 100 pages on the subject.