|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3533 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2023 | Jul 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Dick Jones"That sounds like Tommy he's no thug , like his drink but he doesn't fight, he lost his teeth at Fev a couple year back when they kicked off with us on their car park .'"
It was Tommy, one of your lads told me when he was struggling trying ask for a pint in the bar before the game, then had no idea where he was supposed to be standing in the second half, bit like our defence.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3533 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2023 | Jul 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"Disappointed with the loss. Disappointed with the performance. Disappointed with Harrison yet again with his interviews etc. I dont think Harrison should be offered another contract as once again we throw away a game. A couple of things must be questioned.
FITNESS - Players should not be so tired that after a week since the last game they cant tackle and put much effort. I remeber in the 80s where we was playing somtimes 5 games in 2 weeks and yet still won games. Yes the players are part time but why do we alarmingly become so tired and poor in the second half of games? Leigh have had a tough cup game as well last week and yet even with 12 men apparently looked fitter than us.
ATTITUDE - Starts with the Coach and he just comes up with lame excuses and saying he doesnt do HT talks etc. That doesnt sound very professional to me and no doubt the players will make excuses just like the coach does. 24-0 up at one point. Harrison is on Radio Leeds and it comes across as he doesnt take the defeat and poor performance that seriously. Even allowing for the 2 dodgy tries, its a poor attitude that sees a team, for me, that is at 24-0 with 42 minutes to play lose 28-36. Wheres the leaders on the field? I just come away from listening to Harrison and reading and sometimes seeing games and think the attitude for me is wrong. Maybe I am wrong here but I am not impressed with how he does things
SQUAD . I fail to see why we loaned out Brown when we have Johnson out injured. Maybe Brown wanted more game time- Then he has to earn it!! We see quality finishers and match winners left kicking their heels while we stick fullbacks and centres on the wing. A fullback that is caught out of position and done for speed at centre. We have a SL Lock playing at Stand Off. Why are we playing players out of position so often. We have youngsters that are rarely given much chance to show what they can do- Holden last year, Brookes this year. The players that often are brought in are often good honest players, but not ones that are top quality.'"
Seems a fair comment to me and Casey gets a game week in, week out.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 2578 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| I agree about Brookes but we werent beat in the forwards today. We were beat on the fringes, Heaton not good enough, if Cowling is fit and has been dropped then Harrison needs to go as he obviously has personal issues with players that get in the way of coaching. I cant begin to fathom the loaning of Brown, Harrison has some explaining to do!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2014 | May 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Our second half discipline & defence was awful, why does Rhino insist on playing players out of position.
The harmless Leigh fan "Tommy" should hang his head in shame, was it really necessary to shout, swear & gesture at the Fax fans. Had he just kept his vile toothless gob shut then some of the trouble that occurred in the south stand would not have happened he spoilt what had otherwise been a good game with a great atmosphere
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 151 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2019 | Aug 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Harrison's decisions regarding team selection are baffling.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1118 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Our loss had nothing to do with Barlow. It had everything to do with Fax
Not playing their best in second half with a 1man advantage. I saw no animosity between supporters. Two bad reffing calls and our lack of gaul to win the game when we had it in the bag. Well done Leigh.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1982 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| A thrilling game today, Fax`s first half display was awesome. I expected a mauling in the second half to be honest.
Have to say the idiot who threw the beer at the fax fans who were stood near us was moronic, especially as it worried the kiddies who it went over. Not what the sport,or any club needs to be tarnished with.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 16 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2014 | May 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I don't blame the players, they gave their best today, whether or not thats good enough who knows.
We've limped on now for over 2 years and today the home support were well and truly kicked in the knackers, a totaly humilating experience walking out of the ground today.
Theres nothing more to add about Harrisons (and his coaching staff) tactics, man-management, signings etc than whats already been said before. Time for a change, we need to see if someonelse can get more from these group of players because theyre obviously fragile and lacking confidence.
I cant see the BOD reacting though, they seem to be like rabbits in the headlights constantly repeating their mantra of bring a mate down. Hope everyone had a lovely time in the Harveys Suite, enjoy it while you can.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 16250 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sorry don't know where the home came from. But you lot are hilarious, just keep out of that bottom 5. Looks like KH is trying his hardest to get you there.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6698 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2017 | Feb 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4644 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I often go to games thinking I wonder what will happen today and as a Fax fan for some time it includes anything and everything.
Yesterdays game did set a new precedent though when we are involved.
From 24 up and looking like a team on fire to hanging on for a bonus point, just about sums up a Fax season of inconsistency in one game.
You get your hopes up and think a corner is being turned only to find yourself coming off the road round the next bend with a flat and no jack or spare wheel.
Agree with a lot of what has been said by others but I did think our bench and options for the interchange went against us.
Tonks and Davies were our only props where Leigh had more size on the bench and Tonka being drawn in spent most of his first spell sitting back down for 10 reducing his impact.
Casey was not big enough yesterday and although Holden did nothing wrong Beswick had much more of an impact over the length of the game for the changes in the 9 slot.
Ref, allowed some rugby league and some thugby league and in among all the tit for tat gave a couple of bad calls that stood out from the rest so obvious going against us which influenced the result.
New half back pairing with Mennell and Murrell went pretty well for the first time but not sure it was the best game to try it out in, undecided about Johnston for that game even if he had been fit, his attacking threat would have caused them problems but not sure if his defence against a team of that size.
We still aren't just up there with the top two or three teams.
Anyway the sun has risen again this morning and it's a beautiful day so the end of the world hasn't arrived just yet.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 11989 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2020 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Despite yesterday's fantastic result, (for Leigh) I still wouldn't bet against you when you come to ours. That's what is so great about this Game.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9544 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Not sure where to start with that game as it was like a nightmare.
I said in the week building up to the game that we would be tired due to the game against Widnes and by the end of the game we were out on our feet. What I didnt anticipate was Leighs dirty tactics and it wouldnt surprise me if it wernt part of their gameplan to try and get players binned to try and run us off our feet.
To be honest I thought Leigh`s tactics were a disgrace in that first half and the ref lost control. To be fair to Leigh we saw how good they were in the second half when they concentrated on playing rugby rather than the dirty stuff.
More on the ref before I start on our team but I would love to see where Barlow was stood when he scored their first try because my initial thought was that he were a long way in front of the kicker. When a team is on a roll decisions seem to go your way and the knock on try was dubious to say the least and the try from the forward pass was just downright terrible by the linesman but another game changer that has not been mentioned is the Heaton `knock on` which went over his shoulder and he had to run about 3 yards back to pick up and also the Fieldhouse offside from Pott`s kick which looked to go backwards meaning he couldnt be offside.
Now on to us, and its frustrating to hear people saying about Brown shouldnt have gone to Batley but lets face it he has been average in all the games he has played for us and we looked better with Mennel playing at 7. Harrison`s decision to only make 1 sub in the first half looked inspired early on but by the time the game finished and our players looked dead on their feet you have to question why we still had substitutions remaining and in a game where tiredness was going to play effect why this was so.
Another poor crowd for one of our biggest games of the season and you have to question where the club goes from here. Its a vicious circle and if we want top 2 then we need to bring in new players because our squad is not good enough but to do that we need money. Yesterdays result does not encourage people to watch the team meaning less money to bring in new players meaning we are at best 3rd or 4th in this league. I do not want to put more pressure on our coach but he bemoaned how good their key players were yesterday but he has made the decisions that have turned us from a flair team to a solid team, so many signings and decisions that have been poor imo and we are now paying the price. It will be too late before anything is done about it though.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 309 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | May 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Leigh deployed dirty tactics, getting into our faces (literally) and whining our players up. Don't like the off the ball whining up that Leigh used. Targeting Tonks trying to provoke a reaction. Obviously took exception to be outplayed in first half.
Played well in the first half but was knocked of our game by Rowley's underhand tactics in 2nd half.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 18789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| But these are tactics which win games. These are tactics that are beyond our coach it would seem. It's no good saying "they came to slow us down" or "they disrupted the game by fighting". The only synopsis that matters is how the scoreboard reads after 80 minutes. You have to plan for coaches like Paul Rowley and Mark Aston. if you don't, they end up being better coaches than you.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 115 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Fair play to Leigh put in one of the performances of the season in 2nd half , we got what we deserved. Re Leigh fans there is a problem with some of them I am a South Stand season ticket holder but I sit in the East Stand for the Leigh game I can't be doing with the drunken abuse , vile language and drunken intimidation of the 'Leythers' they are a stain on the game and a disgrace to their club - I wish we would shove them in the North Stand.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 13012 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Well Charlie knew even at 24-0 I had faith ,one thing that spurred the Leythers on was Fieldmouses childish gestures we know what Delboy would call him .As for the game very good , I took Andy Gregory with me , he had a great time a couple of points in the 3 Pigeons , met the Fax and Leigh fans there , and them had a few words with the Diners in Hospitality , still a Legend .
His view on the game was Leigh couldn't score early on because we never had the ball , and our defence was shocking , but he called Leigh the St Helens of the Championship after the second half performance , and has said he will accompany me to other Leigh games this season .
It was good to chat with Johnny Freeman before the game also , a very nice man .My commiserations to Halifaxjohn , Littlerich , Swifty , and Dutchy , also Mick aka Bentleyman , at least I hope you enjoyed the Pork Pies ?Though they did seem a bit soggy .Anyway it will soon be 8th June its my Wedding Anniversary that day .Littlerich said the reason Leigh were top of the League is because of our easy to start to the Season , I agree we haven't played any top teams yet . .Charlie knows .
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 18789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I take all you have to give squarely in the stomach Charlie.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 18789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| What someone needs to do right now is a re-hash of that Adolf Hitler Downfall parody on the events of yesterday's match. That would be too funny to watch.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 706 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2019 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| As a Leigh fan, and having the benefit of just watching the game back in full on LCTV here are my unbiased and honest views if the game. Leigh's 1st try Barlow is in front of the kicker ( only just ) but is offside and try would have been ruled out by a video ref. The 1st sin bins of Barlow & Braeck nothing wrong with the tackle by Barlow which Braeck took exception too resulting in the scuffle. 2nd sin bins of Tonks & Acton ( who was nowhere near it was Emmitt involved ) was caused by Tonks who threw 1st punch and he continued to lose the plot all the time he was on the field. The pass by Higson which was hacked on by Brierley to score was a MILE forward and should not have stood. Nothing wrong with sarsfield's try, as Ridyard tried to off load he is clattered ball and all bt fax defender who propells ball forward, fax then knock on again before McNally off loads to sarsfield for try. Don't get to see the Barlow sending off incident so can't comment if he hits Potts whilst being subbed or not. I wouldn't say Leigh played dirty at all just hard rugby league with indiscretions by both sets if players IMHO. What does stand out also and Certinaley played a part in raising the temperature out there was Fieldhouse very unsporting behaviour of goading McNally whilst in the action of scoring his 1st try but also Gregg could have got himself in trouble by responding with an attempted kick/trip on Ryan. What does stand out is halifax's total change of gameplan in 2nd half of one out rugby from the outstanding attacking display of the 1st half. A game of 2 half which showed both teams soft under belly and some outstanding attacking play & bagfulls of character by the Leigh side. I am sure both sides will be there or there abouts come end of season. Also the comments about Leigh's fans is also out of order, yes we have the odd idiot who embarrasses themselves through ale ( if u can't handle it don't drink ) but there was the odd idiotic fax fans goading and dishing it out at 24-0 but like leigh the VAST majority of fax fans are a credit to their club and team. Don't judge us all with the same brush. Best of luck for rest of season & hope u get in top 2 with us if course cheers Wayne.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 18789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Much appreciated. Balanced comments always are. As a Fax fan I NEVER want to see hide nor hair of this match again but as a Leigh fan it must have felt pretty spectacular. I think Halifax are becoming to Leigh what Widnes were to them. Constantly having the upper hand. The NRC final was hard enough. This just takes the biscuit
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2415 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Rich, do you still get the feeling the club is coasting, almost fearing the expense of being top 2, middle eight and all its expectations?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 18789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="freddies wig"Rich, do you still get the feeling the club is coasting, almost fearing the expense of being top 2, middle eight and all its expectations?'"
I don't think anyone would fear taking the £600k on offer (or whatever it is), nor the chance to compete in that middle eight. What no-one who doesn't have a spare £20m would want, is being in Super League in its current guise. It's a basket case full of frogs. Mad frogs.
I think the club know that (with the steady growth of Fev's off-field commercial strength and Leigh's apparent "miracle" Lazarus act) they are on a hiding to nothing trying to compete next year. Bradford, Fev & Leigh. Then possibly London - depending on whether they are abandoned. We'll be behind the eight-ball from the off. Surely it was better when they closed the drawbridge? No-one expected anything.............
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 13012 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="littlerich"I take all you have to give squarely in the stomach Charlie.'"
Rich , ive done my gloating now , but to be serious , Fax are NOT a bad side you played us off the park in the first half , but we didn't have any attacking play in your half , you cant score without the ball , it also takes 2 to cause a fight , im not pointing the finger , but no need for waving , and other gestures , the Fax guy in the Dug-out was a Disgrace goading Barlow , we all know Sam has a temper but he will be an asset to us this season .
The future for Fax is now unclear , you have a run of away games as we do , but have now lost 3 games this season , and to finish in the top 2 will be hard for you , I still want to see you finish 2nd though , have faith .
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 18789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Mar 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="charlie caroli"Rich , ive done my gloating now , but to be serious , Fax are NOT a bad side you played us off the park in the first half , but we didn't have any attacking play in your half , you cant score without the ball , it also takes 2 to cause a fight , im not pointing the finger , but no need for waving , and other gestures , the Fax guy in the Dug-out was a Disgrace goading Barlow , we all know Sam has a temper but he will be an asset to us this season .
The future for Fax is now unclear , you have a run of away games as we do , but have now lost 3 games this season , and to finish in the top 2 will be hard for you , I still want to see you finish 2nd though , have faith .'"
I still think we'll have an OK season. We won't be in the mix for the top cash but I still wouldn't bet against us getting to the GF. Like you say, the first half was a joy to watch for a Fax fan and with Robinson & Johnston to come back in I'm still going to see some good victories. Not sure what impact all this will have on a club that is already seeing its regular fan base shrink to 1,400.
|
|
|
|
|