Yeah some players hate been given the chance to play a game of rugby.

Aye, when they put pen to paper at Fax i'm sure getting shunted out to cas reserves was on their agenda. They'd have had more games staying where they were.

I don’t understand why the thread keeps being hijacked by DR , most people are neutral on whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing ultimately it’s irrelevant because it is there and that’s it . Personally in the current climate it’s the only thing we have , it seems obvious to me that we’ve failed to add more to our squad because of financial restraints whether that be because of last season’s playoff failure or the uncertainty around IMG , we are where we are and DR is currently are only way of fleshing out our small squad and keeping unselected players match fit by playing in cas reserves. The performance against Widnes was startlingly poor and worried me massively, I’ve also heard unsettling news going on behind the scenes but I wish to remain hopeful that this is just a mix of a new board the confusion of IMG and a terrible performance against Widnes magnifying peoples emotional responses. Whether you want DR or not we are all on the same page that we want fax to be successful both on and off the pitch , let’s hope this last week can soon be forgotten.

Get em onside , forrad pass , the referees a banker and all the rest, come of fax it’s time to come back fighting.

Moan, moan, moan, moan, moan.

It’s 4 games in and nobody not only them were guaranteed anything when signing.

Rogers ( Forster not Rogers my mistake ) is possibly one for the future and knew he would have to bide his time but was prepared to do so.
Nick was also told others were in front of him as well because of him coming out of retirement ( with no games not more played ) if you could be bothered to keep up and to listen what SG said at the time instead of just making things up again.

And since you are so concerned about their lack of first team opportunities who would leave out for them and what would you do with those players and the rest who were left out who according to you only signed up to play super coachicon_confused.gif:
Sorry I meant super couch.



Rogers ( Forster not Rogers my mistake ) you know nothing about his ability and have never seen him play except possibly for the few minutes against Wakefield and Rawsthorne this is what you think of him from another previous critical post.

Hudd-Shay wrote: Quote.
“I can't believe we've brought Rawsthorne back. Last time out he was so uninterested it was almost as though he thought he was too good to be in't championship. It smacks as a job's for the boys scenario. Let's hope when he gets his chance he proves the doubters wrong.” End.

How many faces can a man have, you can’t believe he’s been brought back, Rawsthorne and the Grix are in a “jobs for boys” arrangement which is results in Grix not picking him. lol: It’s

It’s pathetic



And to cap it all he’s got something to prove to you the big doubter who’s suddenly become the big backer



Sorry I meant the big back stabber.

At last a balanced post instead of the completely pointless bickering on DR that seems to be dominating this thread. I'm sure it's been said before but it would be good to have one thread on DR where people who want to continue ranting about it can post, and allow other posts to continue on things I'm sure the vast majority of fans are more interested in.

Who's Rogers?

Yep Forster not Rogers so Iv’e corrected my mistake and answered your question are you man enough to do the same

Fully agree but it wasn't me who brought DR up again in this thread or the others, as soon as the team was mentioned starting on the first page it was Beaujangles and Hudd-Shay who did the Hijacking. "Thankfully no DR this weekend..hopefully Grix has learnt after being mugged off at Widnes by a no show and one who couldn't handle Shane Grady."
"Aye, when will we learn? Even if you were the most enthusiastic supporter of DR you'd have to admit our use of it has been an absolute shambles. I'm sure one poster on here will disagree though.

As for the game, it's up to the players to show that Monday was a one off and without any outside distractions i'll go for a Fax win by 16. Up The Fax!"
"I think we all agree our pack is ordinary..Is it classed as moaning if you expect greater things from a super league quota player if his minds on the job ?"

For years there has been a constant negative stream of comments from Hudd-Shay in particular levelled against the club and the game covering almost every aspect, see just a few samples below.

Regarding DR and the club there was this.
Hudd-Shay wrote:
DR
...and we go again with Castleford. F♡ck that!


Or the non sensical "I'll bet they're loving that.

Three Pigs White Rat 4.0 % Mmm!



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"Aye, when they put pen to paper at Fax i'm sure getting shunted out to cas reserves was on their agenda. They'd have had more games staying where they were.

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Regarding IMG and the club there was this.
Hudd-Shay wrote:
[uWhat a load of tripe that is as well[/u. Who'd have thought that promotion in Rugby League would come down to box ticking as much as performance on the pitch?[u Fax voted for it by all accounts though so it's a case of you've made your bed, lie in it.[/u

Rat & Ratchet, shuddersfield. White Rat 4.0 % Mmm!




Regarding individual players and the coach there was this.
Hudd-Shay wrote:
I can't believe we've brought Rawsthorne back. Last time out he was so uninterested it was almost as though he thought he was too good to be in't championship. It smacks as a job's for the boys scenario. Let's hope when he gets his chance he proves the doubters wrong.
Before him last year it was Cory Aston, before him it was Keegan Hirst etc etc, there's always someone picked out.

There are dozens more with the same themes and none of that that fits in with this part of your post.
Part quote: "We are all on the same page that we want fax to be successful both on and off the pitch." End.

He does all the swinging against our club with their hands tied behind their backs because of professional integrity they can't respond, so Iv'e tried to, not on my ( otherwise I would just simply tick the ignor box ) but on their behalf as I find it tough just to sit back and listen to it when I know how much effort the past and present BoD 's, coaches etc have put in and they don't deserve any of that sort of treatment.

In doing so I apologise for the “bickering” which I intended as “backing” and contributing to ruining the forum and won't be doing so again, it's time to move on, what others decide to do is entirely up to them and you will soon see what that turns out to be.

I hope the players are handling the nerves better than I am, long time since it was this bad, anyone else feeling it.

Well it was a win. Terrible first half. Improved 2nd and didn’t allow Batley to score. I never felt comfortable until the final hooter went. Terrible refereeing. Barleys try in the corner looked like a knock on fumble. We won and that matters most at this time when we don’t look like a cohesive team at all.

Not gonna bother giving an in-depth review as it was a similar performance to all our other games . One thing that needs to be looked at is Tom inman who was instrumental in our comeback and was strangely subbed for Moore who isn’t offering anything in attack at the moment. Doro , king and calcott carried well . Some interesting calls to make next week , personally I’d give some young lads like Forster , Oakley and inman a start as we look very unlikely to trouble fev .

Far too many penalties resulting in no good ball or field position especially in the first half.

Couple of vital scores either side of halftime with better go forward after that with Tom Inman playing a big part and looking a real prospect at this level.

With the week we’ve had I was exhausted through nerves by the time the final whistle went and it was a case of the relief from not losing another so soon was greater than the joy of winning.

For some reason struggling to quote but spot on what Listenup said about Tom Inman. We looked so much better with him on the field than we did with Brandon Moore who dropped off so many tackles and really didn't offer much in attack compared to Inman's quick distribution that seemed to get us some good go forward in the second half. The substitution was bizarre.

1st half picked up where we left off against Widnes getting dominated by a team pretty much playing one up rugby. Second half was much improved and we seemed to find a bit of fire from somewhere which was nice to see. Despite us not playing well we have lost 2 games that a lot of teams are also going to lose and I am certain we will get a lot better than what we have shown so far. Get next weeks hammering out of the way and then the season needs to start proper.

Agree with you all about Tom Inman made a major difference when he was on. Not because he is more skilful or bigger than anyone else he played with passion and went in hard and chased the ball. He is a very impressive young man

Thought JWH was different class today - especially in the absence of Keyes he provided nearly all the moments of the real quality and creativity in attack. Thought our kicking in general play was shocking today, repeatedly putting it down the throat of their fullback who more often than not was able to take it under no pressure and then make good yardage. One exception was excellent kick from Inman, who as everyone else has mentioned was a breath of fresh air, with way play speeded up as soon as he came on. Salty had his biannual dodgy game last week - this week he was fantastic in everything he did - as is usual he probably made more metres than our combined forward pack.

I remember when one Cavill Heugh made his debut at Salford i think. Everyone around me saying what on earth have we signed, he was dreadful. No one can walk into a squad and after two or three sessions be a world beater for that team. DR just provides bodies not matchwinners.
I hope to watch the Batley game when it is online as was unable to see it live this week. Seems it was a bum squeaker.

One major concern centred on the halves, what would we do if JK or LJ got injured.

Only one game to base it on but KW and LJ went okay together and the bonus was seeing how well Tom went at 9, not only personally but how much better the team looked during his spell.

Just shows how things that wouldn’t normally happen can work in your favour and end up with a good outcome following on from Monday when just about everything that could go wrong did do.

Would you be happy to share the unsettling news you have heard. If not fair enough i would just be interested to know.

As for the game i thought the 2 scores one just before halftime and the other straight after was vital in our comeback yesterday. Put it this way if walmsley doesn't pull off the intercept and Batley score i think we were dead and buried at that point. Overall a game of 2 halfs we scored a well taken try to open the scoring but after that Batley rolled us up and down the pitch at will for most of the first 40 and scoring the usual crash over score that we seem to concede every game. I don't know if it were our fitness that got us through in the end but we did seem to play with greater intensity in the second half were Batleys impact up the middle was not as obvious. Happy to have won a game that looked to be getting away from us but for me the issues we have are still there and do not look like getting fixed anytime soon.
While dr seems a hot topic our partners at cas have sacked there coach. I wonder if they will be brave enough to look in the championship for a replacement or go down the tried and tested route. There is some talent that rarely gets a look when it comes to super league.

Tbh I probably shouldn’t have said anything but with all the bickering going on I felt we should be more focused on other more important things. I do know some people who work within the club albeit not in any significant capacity, I haven’t managed to get them to elaborate on things as I’m not one for prying and it may have been a bit of an emotional outburst after the Widnes defeat. I’m always reading between the lines and sometimes I get it wrong ( not necessarily in this case ) . It would be unfair of me to say exactly what’s wrong when there are many facts I do not know . I think some people were quick to jump on grixs’ back when personally I think he’s caught between a rock and a hard place as regards recruitment , I can imagine there’s a lot going on behind the scenes that we’re not aware of especially with the vagueness of the impact of img . Sorry for waffling on and not specifically answering your question but I don’t want to be I’m not 100% sure on my source .

Do not worry about it mate that will do for me.

[Part quote="terry silver"Would you be happy to share the unsettling news you have heard.

Me and Hudd-Shay are moving in on either side of him.

It's been a strange old season so far. The good thing about yesterday was we finished stronger rather than the other way round. Two massive turning points besides the Lachlan length of field try were our try on half time, similar to Batley's this time last year, and the introduction of Tom Inman. He lit our attacking play up and looked a real handful. Why he got took off was baffling. But, as has been said a win is a win and let's hope it gets us going on a long run like last year. Three Pigeons White Rat 4.0% Mmm! Up The Fax!

Not sure why Inman did not get more game time. Moore is not playing that well at the moment i would personally give Inman a good run now and get him playing more

As long as neither of you are moving on DR you should get along like a house on fire.