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| Sacking off the reserves! That is a very nasty and negative statement. Our club has had to make a difficult decision not to run a reserve team. All SL teams are being given thousands of pounds to help them run the reserves. The RFL accepted the Fax application but would not help to fund us. What are the board/meant to do ?
Do you have any concept how much money the club does or doesn’t have? Or even what they have to continue keep our club on a financial even keel.
Accept that the board, coaching staff, squad and all the supporter bodies and supporters do everything we/they can to keep our great club going. Sometimes you just have accepted that we are not the RL force we once were or wish to be. I love this club and accept we have ambition but it will, if ever, take a long long time. But I’m there every week. Up the Fax
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| Quote ="Faxlore"Sacking off the reserves! That is a very nasty and negative statement. Our club has had to make a difficult decision not to run a reserve team. All SL teams are being given thousands of pounds to help them run the reserves. The RFL accepted the Fax application but would not help to fund us. What are the board/meant to do ?
Do you have any concept how much money the club does or doesn’t have? Or even what they have to continue keep our club on a financial even keel.
Accept that the board, coaching staff, squad and all the supporter bodies and supporters do everything we/they can to keep our great club going. Sometimes you just have accepted that we are not the RL force we once were or wish to be. I love this club and accept we have ambition but it will, if ever, take a long long time. But I’m there every week. Up the Fax'"
There's not a lot great about a club that is subservient to another. Up The Fax!
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| Faxlore,,you are totally correct, have the other jokers on here tried to push water uphill,well that is what it is like for the vast majority of championship clubs and some SL clubs also. Just lay back and enjoy it if you can,if not, get out of bed.
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| Quote ="Faxlore"I’m not a fan of DR but I have to agree with DNAfax. Last season Fev were not an outstanding squad but they used this system and nearly made it.
Glad to hear season ticket sales are up from this time last year
Up the Fax'"
Yes, and they get promoted and then what... who are Fev going to DR with next. That's the BS of DR. I am really saddened by the demise of the reserves. Sustainability is the only way forward. I am quite thankful that Fev never got promoted. Somehow DR would then have been legitimised and flying in the face off London who got there on long- term investment in their youth and building an excellent squad over the last 4-5 seasons.
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| Quote ="Faxlore"Sacking off the reserves! That is a very nasty and negative statement. Our club has had to make a difficult decision not to run a reserve team. All SL teams are being given thousands of pounds to help them run the reserves. The RFL accepted the Fax application but would not help to fund us. What are the board/meant to do ?
Do you have any concept how much money the club does or doesn’t have? Or even what they have to continue keep our club on a financial even keel.
Accept that the board, coaching staff, squad and all the supporter bodies and supporters do everything we/they can to keep our great club going. Sometimes you just have accepted that we are not the RL force we once were or wish to be. I love this club and accept we have ambition but it will, if ever, take a long long time. But I’m there every week. Up the Fax'"
It were more a figure of speech but yes that is what we have done, sacked off the reserves. It will not make any difference to my attandance during the season though even if I didn't agree with it. I even understand the reasons behind doing it, obviously a cost cutting measure and the chances of us getting players that could come through to the first team is very low with other teams now running a reserves as well. The trust did a vast amount of work to bring funds in to the club to fund the reserves and I am sure they will still help in bringing money in but if the club are banking on it been the same amount as they brought in before then its probably an error as a lot of people donated to them because it was going to the reserves. We have already seen people say on here that will now stop and who can blame them.
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| From what I hear Leeds and Fev will share a res. side, Fev will get a pick in the sweetie shop,Gary gets the dosh and meets the S L reserve criteria and we do nothing? To be competitive we need a deal with someone that helps us compete. I fully support the BOD decision on the reserves,I don't have to like it but we all have to be realistic.
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| Quote ="Fanfaxtic"From what I hear Leeds and Fev will share a res. side, Fev will get a pick in the sweetie shop,Gary gets the dosh and meets the S L reserve criteria and we do nothing? To be competitive we need a deal with someone that helps us compete. I fully support the BOD decision on the reserves,I don't have to like it but we all have to be realistic.'"
But surely by going down that path, Fax/Fev or any other championship club are furthering the day when they can truly be able to challenge for a place at the top table. The SL clubs must be collectively peeing theirselves at the short sightedness of it all. In effect we are doing their dirty work for them and saying how grateful we are to be part of it. There's none so blind as those that will not see.
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| I understand your logic Hudd Shay but most clubs are in such a dire financial position it is the lesser of two evils. It's not the clubs fault that the RFL allow this to happen, it is in the RFL interest so as to preserve the clubs long term by allowing the DR swapshop to keep clubs afloat without contract costs.
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| Quote ="Fanfaxtic"I understand your logic Hudd Shay but most clubs are in such a dire financial position it is the lesser of two evils. It's not the clubs fault that the RFL allow this to happen, it is in the RFL interest so as to preserve the clubs long term by allowing the DR swapshop to keep clubs afloat without contract costs.'"
In which case then it is probably time for clubs below SL to break away and let the 'elite' play with theirselves 'lol'. Easier said than done of course but the way things are going some clubs are going to disappear altogether. New tv deals and sponsorships could be sought for what after all is a much more enjoyable brand of rugby than the stale five drives and a kick that SL has become. I'm sure the fans in SL would be delighted to watch Huddersfield v Wakefield 5/6 times a season and fork out for trips to Canada, France, Lebanon or wherever. As it stands the game is heading headlong into oblivion so the status quo to me is not an option. Up The Fax!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"But surely by going down that path, Fax/Fev or any other championship club are furthering the day when they can truly be able to challenge for a place at the top table. The SL clubs must be collectively peeing theirselves at the short sightedness of it all. In effect we are doing their dirty work for them and saying how grateful we are to be part of it. There's none so blind as those that will not see.'"
Pete,
This isn’t true though is it? Fev got within 25 mins of beating Toronto in the GF and had been told that if we had won we would have been accepted into SL (whether this would have been good or bad for Fev we’ll never know). And as much as I dislike DR without it I doubt we would have made the top 5. Given the way that Fev use DR I have two choices either go watch Fev and accept all things DR or sack of something I enjoy doing supporting my club. I have chosen the former.
For me all the championship clubs should have told SL to go with DR when is was first muted, unfortunately some clubs used it from day one and therefore it became the norm which has meant that most (all) clubs have used it at some point. And now it is with us I can’t see it going away and therefore either accept it or walk away from the club I follow.
As for a breakaway this can’t happen until after at least the 2021 season because the TV deal that Sky have includes the championship, which means that we can’t sort our own TV deal out until that point in time. However there is one thing that a breakaway does mean, whether now or in 2022, and that is that all the clubs that breakaway will never have a chance to compete in the top division ever again going forwards.
Hope to see you in the new year for a beer at the very least.
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"Pete,
This isn’t true though is it? Fev got within 25 mins of beating Toronto in the GF and had been told that if we had won we would have been accepted into SL (whether this would have been good or bad for Fev we’ll never know). And as much as I dislike DR without it I doubt we would have made the top 5. Given the way that Fev use DR I have two choices either go watch Fev and accept all things DR or sack of something I enjoy doing supporting my club. I have chosen the former.
For me all the championship clubs should have told SL to go with DR when is was first muted, unfortunately some clubs used it from day one and therefore it became the norm which has meant that most (all) clubs have used it at some point. And now it is with us I can’t see it going away and therefore either accept it or walk away from the club I follow.
As for a breakaway this can’t happen until after at least the 2021 season because the TV deal that Sky have includes the championship, which means that we can’t sort our own TV deal out until that point in time. However there is one thing that a breakaway does mean, whether now or in 2022, and that is that all the clubs that breakaway will never have a chance to compete in the top division ever again going forwards.
Hope to see you in the new year for a beer at the very least.'"
You will certainly see us for a beer or two Dave.
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| new rule from RFL.
squad numbers up to 21 players. if use one that is not on the list you lose an interchange as I read it.
is this a way to combat DR?
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| Quote ="swifty62"new rule from RFL.
squad numbers up to 21 players. if use one that is not on the list you lose an interchange as I read it.
is this a way to combat DR?'" Quote ="swifty62"new rule from RFL.
squad numbers up to 21 players. if use one that is not on the list you lose an interchange as I read it.
is this a way to combat DR?'"
what happens if a Halifax Player has a squad number greater than 21 as a few do. do we then lose an interchange as well
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| Quote ="steve_valerugby"what happens if a Halifax Player has a squad number greater than 21 as a few do. do we then lose an interchange as well'"
21 man squads.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"You will certainly see us for a beer or two Dave.'"
Excellent, I look forward to it.
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| Quote ="swifty62"new rule from RFL.
squad numbers up to 21 players. if use one that is not on the list you lose an interchange as I read it.
is this a way to combat DR?'"
Swifty,
I suspect you are referring to this news:
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RFL could bring in 21-man squads
The Rugby Football League has outlined proposals to introduce 21-man squads in 2020 as part of a major overhaul of the game’s squad list procedures, report League Express.
Clubs will lose an interchange if they draft in a player from outside their 21-man squad for the match, according to League Express.
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If so, it makes no difference to DR. Basically we currently have 19-man squads announced 2 days before the game (this includes any DR players), however it is possible to pull extra players on game day due to illness, etc. without any penalties. So the suggested change here is that you have to announce a 21-man squad 2 days before the game, again including DR players and then if you have to pull other players in on game day (for whatever reason) the team will lose an interchange for that game.
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"
If so, it makes no difference to DR. Basically we currently have 19-man squads announced 2 days before the game (this includes any DR players), however it is possible to pull extra players on game day due to illness, etc. without any penalties. So the suggested change here is that you have to announce a 21-man squad 2 days before the game, again including DR players and then if you have to pull other players in on game day (for whatever reason) the team will lose an interchange for that game.'"
That's how I read it too FG
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Lets face it going on last seasons performance and our squad so far we will be lucky to finish anywhere above 7th this coming season. Sacking off the reserves and then not making the most of a DR agreement would not make much sense. We need to add just for RFF that this still does not mean we agree with the system but where as before if it were sacked off we would be in a stronger position than most teams, now if it gets sacked off we will still be in a similar position to the one now.'"
You don't have to lay yourselves open to me on the dual reg issue. I hate the system but without it i wouldn't have gone to Toronto.
Yeah I'll continue to take the pizz out of fax fans giving us the fev rhinos sheeite when fax are going down the same route with a club rumoured to be the giants for heavens sake.
Dual reg is here. Its not goung away now unless every club outside SL agrees to it. Is this going to happen? Is it balls.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"You don't have to lay yourselves open to me on the dual reg issue. I hate the system but without it i wouldn't have gone to Toronto.
Yeah I'll continue to take the pizz out of fax fans giving us the fev rhinos sheeite when fax are going down the same route with a club rumoured to be the giants for heavens sake.
Dual reg is here. Its not goung away now unless every club outside SL agrees to it. Is this going to happen? Is it balls.'"
Turkeys.....Christmas!
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| Pete.... we share similar views on dual reg.
A commitment to shorttermism.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Pete.... we share similar views on dual reg.
A commitment to shorttermism.'"
Aye, we all or most of us hate it but as you say we're stuck with it now, at least in the short term. The game is in a right mess but as long as the pigs at the top table have a trough to dip into nowt's going to change. If we do end up joining with the giants, FFS, I'll personally take a season out. We have after all a trip to Mexico on the horizon for the lads wedding and my brass will go that way rather than watching shuddersfield players turning out in the blue and white hoops.
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| Hudd Shay.
Even if it is Butler back in the blue n white ? (How ironic would be for him?)
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Hudd Shay.
Even if it is Butler back in the blue n white ? (How ironic would be for him?)'"
He's gone, he's shudds now so yes.
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| DR will fade away because SL clubs can now have a full squad of ready to go
fully players, you can bet your bottom dollar the lads who don't play 1st team due to selection reasons will be playing 2nd grade rugby. This will sharpen up the players and have them match fit, results not an issue player development being the key issue. What will happen probably is the lower tier clubs will have to pay the wages of reserve grade players on loan deals or come to some
* quid pro quo* that will heavily weigh in favour of the SL club.
Yes once it's up and running and the format is settled in SL clubs will sign up players that us championship and league 1 clubs would have just to see how they go in the reserve grade. Everything is going to harder from hereinafter. I But what boils my wee wee more than anything is HALIFAX WAS PART OF THE PARTY.
It's as a tragedy that we as a club and we as supporters can't see the whole picture that the future of anything always rests with youngsters. They we not SL standard yet but I've a feeling this will come back and bite us on our backsides in more ways than and could have dire consequences.
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| Quote ="muttley cat"DR will fade away because SL clubs can now have a full squad of ready to go
fully players, you can bet your bottom dollar the lads who don't play 1st team due to selection reasons will be playing 2nd grade rugby. T'"
I would strongly advise anybody NOT to bet their bottom dollar, or any dollars, pounds or euros, on this happening.
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