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| How many points do you think they'll end up on this season? and what are their chances of sucess in 3 years time?
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| Very selfish I know but I would love 'em to get zilch and take our record of the worst ever SL team but doubt it will happen.
Plus I despise them as they are and never were worthy of a SL licence, poor ground, no fans, team full of Aussies and not in RL territory etc...
yet they got a licence.
Cos they are in Wales!
Realistically i think they will win 5 games tops.
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| what about in 3 years time?
i fink theyl av 5 pointz
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| Must we go over all this yet again?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Must we go over all this yet again?
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i think so. its crucial to our hopes this season
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| Quote ="littlerich"Must we go over all this yet again?
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Nah true lets leave it, they are cr8p and will go bust along with Harlequins so we can have their SL licence in 2011 and widnes the other one
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"i think so. its crucial to our hopes this season'"
why does the amount of points the crusaders get have any bearing on our hopes????
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| It's in the best interests of Halifax that the likes of Celtic and Harlequins do well. We have a far better chance of a franchise if the likes of Wakey and Salford do badly. Anyway, all this franchise stuff stinks and I'm enjoying the rugby even more than '98 so they can stick celtic, the queens and sl up their ass. Lets talk good ol' honest NL
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"It's in the best interests of Halifax that the likes of Celtic and Harlequins do well. We have a far better chance of a franchise if the likes of Wakey and Salford do badly. Anyway, all this franchise stuff stinks and I'm enjoying the rugby even more than '98 so they can stick celtic, the queens and sl up their ass. Lets talk good ol' honest NL
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| Quote ="4everfax"why does the amount of points the crusaders get have any bearing on our hopes????'"
it just does
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"It's in the best interests of Halifax that the likes of Celtic and Harlequins do well. We have a far better chance of a franchise if the likes of Wakey and Salford do badly. Anyway, all this franchise stuff stinks and I'm enjoying the rugby even more than '98 so they can stick celtic, the queens and sl up their ass. Lets talk good ol' honest NL
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I would disagree with your first part, if they do well it means we will never get the chance to get back into SL as the RL world will say we need more 'expansion clubs' like these and admit Toulose while saying no to 'heartland clubs' like us.
Wakey are at risk without a new ground yes, Salford will be safe as they will not want any 'egg on their face' after allowing them in this year.
My fear is that the RFL will not want to risk a challenge in court by any existing SL club and keep them all in.
But you have a point its good where we are NOW, but was it in 2005 and 2006 ask yourself?
I didn't think so at the time and long term we will always lose out to SL clubs, the very best players want full time RL and more money and with the rise of Bradford before, Leeds now and maybe Huddersfield we are under threat imo.
To get a SL franchsie in 2011 must be our aim, you have to have ambition to be the best and whilst being the best at Championship level is where we have to be now, which is great, we need to aim ever higher.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"
it just does'"
That settles it then
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| It`s all well and good saying yes we want to be in Soooper League but who is going to put all that money in year after year to keep us competative. I don`t know of anybody prepared to put something like 7 or 8 hundred thousand in a year to keep us there .One thing I don`t want is being like we were before .it got soul destroying and we hit rock bottom.
Course if I am wrong and you all know folk who will put money in then I say yes lets go for it.
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| with some sensible progression, like the way we are developing at the moment, i am optimistic we could mould a team that could compete in the lower reaches of the super league.
the way the clubs situation has improved across the board over the last 2 seasons has been fantastic. what we need to do now is keep it going while not blowing silly money on trying to expand too fast
why wouldnt we be able to compete at a complete shay in 3 years time with crowds around 4000+ when others are?
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"
My fear is that the RFL will not want to risk a challenge in court by any existing SL club and keep them all in.
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Given that in the last round of applications there was a clause saying to be eligible to apply for a license you had to agree that you wouldn't sue if you weren't picked I don't imagine this would be a problem.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"with some sensible progression, like the way we are developing at the moment, i am optimistic we could mould a team that could compete in the lower reaches of the super league.
the way the clubs situation has improved across the board over the last 2 seasons has been fantastic. what we need to do now is keep it going while not blowing silly money on trying to expand too fast
why wouldnt we be able to compete at a complete shay in 3 years time with crowds around 4000+ when others are?'"
Because someone is puting big money in as Howard Posner said one time for every 1,000 below 10,000 you need 100,000 to keep in Super League so if as you say we may get 4,000 then we need a person or persons to put in£ 600,000 in.It would be nice if possible but I don`t know where there coming from.Don`t think business can do it in the way of sponsorship either.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"with some sensible progression, like the way we are developing at the moment, i am optimistic we could mould a team that could compete in the lower reaches of the super league.
the way the clubs situation has improved across the board over the last 2 seasons has been fantastic. what we need to do now is keep it going while not blowing silly money on trying to expand too fast
why wouldnt we be able to compete at a complete shay in 3 years time with crowds around 4000+ when others are?'"
Because someone is puting big money in as Howard Posner said one time for every 1,000 below 10,000 you need 100,000 to keep in Super League so if as you say we may get 4,000 then we need a person or persons to put in£ 600,000 in.It would be nice if possible but I don`t know where there coming from.Don`t think business can do it in the way of sponsorship either not in this climate.
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| There is life out side the super league!!!
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| Im enjoying this league immensley (coupled with our performances). Yes there are some poor teams (look at tonights TV game) but on it's day the top 5-6 could all beat each other.
Id rather be in a competitive league & enjoy my rugby rather than be whipping boys, hoping for a spark to make us better. We are slowly getting things right on & off the field & when it's time for us to move up, we will & be able to hold our own.
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| if we were in SL we could have a completely full time squad with players as good as, and probably a bit better than, ours at the moment. Surely we'd compete!
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"if we were in SL we could have a completely full time squad with players as good as, and probably a bit better than, ours at the moment. Surely we'd compete!'"
it would depend on who you could recruit. Look at Widnes this year. They are full time (well almost all of them are) but they have everage players. Being full time doesnt automtically mean that you will pick up the best players. After all, we'd be starting from the bottom & have slim pickings. It's taken Cas a good couple of years to be able to attract decent calibre players.
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| im injoying my rugby to. i think toulouse will get straght in to SL they want 2 french teams so the french international side gets better so these more comp for England. we cant control it, we can only hope.
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| i believe the town of halifax can provide a decent super laegue team given time and the correct management
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