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Well since Kirkstaller copped a ban its about time someone took up the religious baton and so you miserable sinners, read the above link and find out specifically which horrible eternal torture you can expect to suffer.

Personally, because I am totally ambivalent about the whole religion guff thing I will apparently end up on the periphery of hell running around for eternity being stung by wasps and having maggots drink my blood, sounds like a good night out in St Helens does that.

Its also very revealing in other ways, I always thought that the worst sin that a Christian could do was to commit suicide, you'll be buried in unconsecrated ground outside the churchyard and all that, well it turns out that that is the worst part of taking your own life for your punishment in hell is to be a tree, just that, you'll be a tree for eternity.

But the worst that hell has for you sinners is if you have partaken of traitorous behavior, for you hell does not hold back its fury, the deity is indeed vociferous in his expressions of anger at you the traitor, you evil person you, for you must marry a pig in a nuns wimple.

I'm off to church tonight, see if they're open for business, failing that its the chemist for some insect repellent.

I think the hint was in point 10:

That's never been allowed to get in the way of the various Christian churches and denominations.

The biggest hint was in the word "bible"

Any mention and you just know that complete bollox will soon follow

If you've no one to have a dig at then let him back on! This thread is a bit lame TBH.

Thats you swimming in a stream of excrement for all eternity then...

Doesn't really have to be in the bible for it to be taught to the religious followers - Dante for instance had family links to the Papacy and was taught (as were all scholars at the time) by Catholic monks in Florence, its not hard to deduce where he got the ideas implanted that there was a place called Hell and of what went on there.

Hieronymus Bosch's father was an important leader of The Brotherhood of Our Lady, a Flemish Catholic organisation that followed the mother of Christ and in adulthood Bosch became artistic advisor to the organisation, fairly easy to see where his influences came from.

Milton followed Protestantism and was trained to be an Anglican priest and much of his early work is centred around religion, not hard to fathom out where he got his ideas on Hell from.

Organised religion has used various visions of Hell as a control tool for centuries in an "Ignore us and this will happen to you" or "Ignore us and this is what awaits" or more importantly "Hand over your wealth or this will be your fate", the concept of a Hell is purely a religious concept invented by the religious hierachy and mentioned in the bible, no argument.

Ah, you've never been to Leeds, then.

Shouldn't that read:

"The biggest hint was in the member name SaintsFan

Any mention and you just know that complete bollox will soon follow"

Switzerland are screwed in point 1 for their neutrality, I see, and the Lego fella is DEFINITELY going to Hell.

You do all realise that according to Christians, Jesus died to forgive our sins.

Therefore every murderer, rapist, paedo, genocidal maniac, and general all round bad egg, is allowed into heaven. Jesus essentially created a heavenly schengen agreement for the deceased.

This all begs the question of if Heaven really is a good place to go anymore.
Imagine for example being brutally raped and murdered by Peter Sutcliffe, only to find that a few years later he turns up in heaven on your spiritual doorstep and says HONEY I'M BACK.

With this in mind one has to therefore ask if Jesus was actually doing good by forgiving all our sins.

It has occurred to me that Jesus may be the true embodiment of evil itself.
By telling people it doesnt matter how they behave when alive, Jesus has effectively given people the carte blanche right to act how they want, without any consequence upon death. This amounts to Temptation, which as we all know is one of the skills the Devil possesses.

Looking at the Christian cross is it not unusual that a religion would have an object associated with pain, suffering & torture as its totem. Surely pain suffering and torture are things associated with Hell rather than Heaven.
Is Christianity therefore a form of Devil worship?

Does Islam go in depth about hell?

What about other cults?

Christianity, Judaism, Jehovahs, ancient Greek and Egyptian society, Islam, Buddhists, Chinese folklore, even native American culture all have a version of Hell although strangely Hindu's don't.

So it must be true then.

I hear tell that "our Nigel" was preaching from the 'RFL Bible'.....what normally follows that?

Although none of the other Abrahamic religions (and, as far as I remember, none of the other religions) do the idea of the Devil quite like Christianity does.

IIRC (it's a few years since I was doing a spot of research on it), Judaism doesn't really bother and Islam has sort of sprites that are more mischief-making than demonic.

Which sets up the question of whether any other religious culture could therefore produce Faust?