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| Quote ="Call Me God"You've been conned mate. The Major issues in the UK have little to do with Muslim doctrines....nor Syrian refugees, not Polish Electricians either. The Major issues in the UK stem from the banks being greedy, going tits up, being bailed out by their school mates in government and working class people footing the bill.....resulting in austerity.
The Biggest con was getting people like you to believe that it was Ivan, the Polish Sparky and Achmed, the Muslim corner shop owner who are to blame, too the extent that your about to have another "old schoolmate" become prime minister, even after he lied about £350,000,000 going to the NHS once Brexit was delivered.....he then blocked the delivery of Brexit to further his own claims to the throne and you lot are cheerleading him.....aren't you a smart chap
BTW......wedon't have any issues in NZ with Muslims, not Jews, Hindu's, Sikh's, Catholics, Protestants or any other religion, race creed or culture.....that's why we have a PM who is respected around the world, whilst you lot are a laughing stock.'"
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| Quote ="My Mate Ronnie"Mocking Disabled and Down Syndrome people on the internet ..... Pretty sure thats against the A.U.P'"
Disgraceful, huh?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"You've been conned mate. The Major issues in the UK have little to do with Muslim doctrines....nor Syrian refugees, not Polish Electricians either. The Major issues in the UK stem from the banks being greedy, going tits up, being bailed out by their school mates in government and working class people footing the bill.....resulting in austerity.
The Biggest con was getting people like you to believe that it was Ivan, the Polish Sparky and Achmed, the Muslim corner shop owner who are to blame, too the extent that your about to have another "old schoolmate" become prime minister, even after he lied about £350,000,000 going to the NHS once Brexit was delivered.....he then blocked the delivery of Brexit to further his own claims to the throne and you lot are cheerleading him.....aren't you a smart chap
BTW......wedon't have any issues in NZ with Muslims, not Jews, Hindu's, Sikh's, Catholics, Protestants or any other religion, race creed or culture.....that's why we have a PM who is respected around the world, whilst you lot are a laughing stock.'"
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Disgraceful, huh?
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| Well, today is the day when Boris will be given the keys to no 10, which isn't great for any of us.
However, with how the numbers are stacking up, in terms of his Parliamentary majority, he is likely to be there for way less time than Mrs May and if he cant secure Brexit by 31st October, surely he would have to resign ?
Happy Halloween Boris.
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| There's a huge bucket of poo ready to fall on the next PM's head, and considering the majority of the turds in it belong to BoJo, there's poetic justice in him becoming PM.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"There's a huge bucket of poo ready to fall on the next PM's head, and considering the majority of the turds in it belong to BoJo, there's poetic justice in him becoming PM.'"
we'll be better of with BoJo than Cringbebin, that is certain.
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| Quote ="IR80"we'll be better of with BoJo than Cringbebin, that is certain.'"
It certainly wasn't much of a choice and it has to be said that the poisoned chalice that Mrs May inherited is way more toxic now than it was 3 years ago.
He'll be gone before Christmas, with the beginning of November being the most likely time - this assumes that "do or die" actually meant something.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It certainly wasn't much of a choice and it has to be said that the poisoned chalice that Mrs May inherited is way more toxic now than it was 3 years ago.
He'll be gone before Christmas, with the beginning of November being the most likely time - this assumes that "do or die" actually meant something.'"
I very much doubt much that anything Boris says means much, he may surprise us all.
I admit I believe conservative ideals to the core, but we haven't had a PM of conviction since Thatcher, other than Blair who should be convicted.
It is a very different world we live in, our former "enemies" are now way stronger than us, our skill base has been dismantled, who is to blame I know not, but they are all (at tne top tables) royally b'ng it up!
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| Quote ="IR80"I very much doubt much that anything Boris says means much, he may surprise us all.
I admit I believe conservative ideals to the core, but we haven't had a PM of conviction since Thatcher, other than Blair who should be convicted.
It is a very different world we live in, our former "enemies" are now way stronger than us, our skill base has been dismantled, who is to blame I know not, but they are all (at tne top tables) royally b'ng it up!'"
The 2 biggest issues apart from Brexit) holding the country back and allowing us into the current mess were the Tories leaving everything "for the markets to decide" and the Unions not allowing companies to modernise quickly enough, which although the unions protected jobs in the short term, they put so many large businesses in a position where they were "flabby" and inefficient.
Lets not even mention the banking crisis, where "the market" allowed greedy bankers to gamble away our kids' futures.
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| Thatcher was the most devisive PM we have ever had. It was her policies which decimated UK manufacturing and started the UKs steady decline. She was ignorant and towards the end, mad. Blair had a lot of good qualities and he helped to reunite the nation. However, his decision to pally up with Bush and invade Iraq was a big mistake - and one that didnt make any sense even at the time.
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| Quote ="silver2"Thatcher was the most devisive PM we have ever had. It was her policies which decimated UK manufacturing and started the UKs steady decline. She was ignorant and towards the end, mad. Blair had a lot of good qualities and he helped to reunite the nation. However, his decision to pally up with Bush and invade Iraq was a big mistake - and one that didnt make any sense even at the time.'"
In tha same way that Blair couldn't say no to Bush, Boris will just love the warm feeling of Trumps hand up his .
If ever 2 leaders deserved each other, these are the worlds most dangerous couple. Mind you, it's clear who will be wearing the trousers.
All we need now for the perfect threesome is Farage to be appointed either foreign minister or US ambassador. Happy days
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| Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.
But we have been here before.
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| Boris is simply the UK version of Trump.
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| Quote ="IR80"Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.
But we have been here before.'"
As opposed to the police illegally assaulting miners .
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| Quote ="IR80"Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.
But we have been here before.'" I love how you use the word illegally as you can't be sure to back up your brave words your spouting
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| Quote ="IR80"we'll be better of with BoJo than Cringbebin, that is certain.'"
If you earn over £80,000 you’ll be better off under Trumps puppet, 95% will be worse off under our unelected leader.
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| Quote ="My Mate Ronnie"Mocking Disabled and Down Syndrome people on the internet ..... Pretty sure thats against the A.U.P
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Nah.....POTUS does it so it must be OK
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| [urlhttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-faces-possible-tory-meltdown-as-six-mps-are-reportedly-planning-to-defect-to-lib-dems-if-he-becomes-new-party-leader/ar-AAEF704[/url
So, the party faithful have opted for BoJo but the party elected MP's aren't happy so will cross the floor, resulting in a General Election. Hmmm
In the current climate, I can see a hung parliament with the Lib dems at the front, the Brexit Party second and the other two jostling for the amount of seats needed to make them junior coalition partners, with Labour and the Lib dems taking power, whilst the others further polarise the Right Wing.......and all this because Cameron wanted to cement his power and underestimated the depths to which his detractors would go to.
Shambles is an understatement.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"If you earn over £80,000 you’ll be better off under Trumps puppet, 95% will be worse off under our unelected leader.'"
We have never elected a leader, just for yoir information.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"As opposed to the police illegally assaulting miners .'"
Aided and abetted by the government of the day, who closed their eyes to the "anything goes policing" .
Of course there was plenty of wrongdoing on the miners side but, nobody should pretend that the police stuck to the rules.
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| Quote ="IR80"Sin Bin, easy to spot former miners who illegally picketed whilst assaulting Police.
But we have been here before.'"
So why post another perverted Daily Mail headline? You embarrassed by your party by any chance?
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| Quote ="tigertot"So why post another perverted Daily Mail headline? You embarrassed by your party by any chance?'"
Embarassed by being correct, never. Labour ran the country to the pits of oblivion, but old people seem to have a hazy euphoric memory.
But that is the Sin Bin, socialism and every reason why the UK is trapped in the 50's.
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| Quote ="IR80"Embarassed by being correct, never. Labour ran the country to the pits of oblivion, but old people seem to have a hazy euphoric memory.
But that is the Sin Bin, socialism and every reason why the UK is trapped in the 50's.'"
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| Quote ="IR80"We have never elected a leader, just for yoir information.'"
The prime minister should only be decided from a general election, you vote for a political party and the winners leader becomes prime minister. I’d say that is electing a leader.
Boris Johnson has been selected by a small number of old rich men, this is not democracy. 699 out of every 700 people did not vote for Boris Johnson, he has no right to be PM and should call an election if he has any integrity (he doesn’t)
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