[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23518732Jeremy Hunt's plan to downgrade Lewisham hospital because a neighbouring PFI-funded trust (in a Tory borough) is in trouble ruled unlawful by the high court.[/url

Excellent news.

Aye - I hope there are a few mispronounced attempts at his name in the coverage later too.

It's going to be interesting to see what Jeremy Hunt has to say about the latest revelation:

[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-hospital-corporation-america-donates-2246513Tory donor handed huge NHS contract[/url

This really is the politics of the loony bin

Got a letter recently about my daughter from the "NHS Community Child Health" - at least it has the NHS logo on. But, it also has a "Virgincare" logo too and the email address is a Virgincare one (positioned under the NHS logo). Seems like just about everything is now privatised. In my experience, any business with the "Virgin"name in it is to be avoided.

The most recent [url=http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2014/jun/mirror-mirrorCommonwealth Fund Comparative Study into Healthcare Systems[/url shows that rather than being the "basket case" that the tories and their lapdog press would have us believe, our NHS actually ranks No.1 in all but three categories and of the remainder, we rank 2nd & 2rd with only "Healthy Lives" trailing at 10th (but still ahead of the USA)

How does this information tally with your 'NHS RIP' statement on 1 April 2013?

What the Tories would have us believe? Not Andy Burnham, "Dr". Eoin "I'm very sorry I won't print these entirely false allegations again" Clarke or the Guardian?

Still, it goes to show that privatisation in the NHS works. The NHS under the Tories, ranked number 1 in the world.

The figures are from 2011 numb nuts.

The tories hadn't even begun to start their decimation yet and hopefully they won't be allowed to continue for much longer

See above

You should really look more carefully at what you post then, look across the bottom of the helpful table and it tells you where the info is taken from, years 2011, 2012 and 2013.

Numb nuts? That's all the likes of you have, insults to make up for a startling lack of intelligence.

Go on, tell us about how how privatisation of the NHS is evil and then how you voted for a party that promised to privatise the NHS.

Privatisation works. Accept it and move on. The Tories have saved the NHS.

A public health policy using private companys funded by tax income can work in some sectors, but the "improvment" in services can be short term when a few years into the contract investors start to realise that there is no killing to be made in share trading when the business is tied to revenue incomes that are static, linked only to inflation or subject to varying political will -the only real way to increase profits year on year is to reduce costs or go back to your paymaster and complain that their demands and standards are too high and hint that you wont be interested at the next round of tender bids, depending on the political will prevailing at the time you'll probably get a sympathetic ear, particularly if some of the chiefs in your paymasters are private shareholders or are rather hoping to be on your payroll when they lose their current position.

You also have the undeniable fact that some sectors of healthcare are just too specialist labour intensive to run cheaply or at a profit at all -you wouldnt want an A&E dept run by temps or left unstaffed when a bean counter "forecasts" a period of low demand. What you end up with then is a basic public health provision of expensive unprofitable sectors with the rest of it cherry picked and in private hands - rather like the Spanish health service for instance - all of which is fine and dandy while you are young, fit and in work and can afford or are given private health cover, but no use to you whatsoever if you have a long term condition, are unemployed or retired, none of whom are welcome through the doors of your average private health provider.

I'll repeat this again, everyone who comments on this thread should first of all go to one of the private providers web sites and get a quote for a similer level of cover that they currently have in the NHS, its usually the "gold cover", then report back here what it would cost them, I have Aviva mailshotting me every month with quotes that range from £96 to £110 a month, thats just for me and not my family and is based on perfect health and no pre-existing conditions, and rather more sinister, certain limits on chronic or terminal conditions.

A public health policy using private companys funded by tax income can work in some sectors, but the "improvment" in services can be short term when a few years into the contract investors start to realise that there is no killing to be made in share trading when the business is tied to revenue incomes that are static, linked only to inflation or subject to varying political will -the only real way to increase profits year on year is to reduce costs or go back to your paymaster and complain that their demands and standards are too high and hint that you wont be interested at the next round of tender bids, depending on the political will prevailing at the time you'll probably get a sympathetic ear, particularly if some of the chiefs in your paymasters are private shareholders or are rather hoping to be on your payroll when they lose their current position.

You also have the undeniable fact that some sectors of healthcare are just too specialist labour intensive to run cheaply or at a profit at all -you wouldnt want an A&E dept run by temps or left unstaffed when a bean counter "forecasts" a period of low demand. What you end up with then is a basic public health provision of expensive unprofitable sectors with the rest of it cherry picked and in private hands - rather like the Spanish health service for instance - all of which is fine and dandy while you are young, fit and in work and can afford or are given private health cover, but no use to you whatsoever if you have a long term condition, are unemployed or retired, none of whom are welcome through the doors of your average private health provider.

I'll repeat this again, everyone who comments on this thread should first of all go to one of the private providers web sites and get a quote for a similer level of cover that they currently have in the NHS, its usually the "gold cover", then report back here what it would cost them, I have Aviva mailshotting me every month with quotes that range from £96 to £110 a month, thats just for me and not my family and is based on perfect health and no pre-existing conditions, and rather more sinister, certain limits on chronic or terminal conditions.

A public health policy using private companys funded by tax income can work in some sectors, but the "improvment" in services can be short term when a few years into the contract investors start to realise that there is no killing to be made in share trading when the business is tied to revenue incomes that are static, linked only to inflation or subject to varying political will -the only real way to increase profits year on year is to reduce costs or go back to your paymaster and complain that their demands and standards are too high and hint that you wont be interested at the next round of tender bids, depending on the political will prevailing at the time you'll probably get a sympathetic ear, particularly if some of the chiefs in your paymasters are private shareholders or are rather hoping to be on your payroll when they lose their current position.

You also have the undeniable fact that some sectors of healthcare are just too specialist labour intensive to run cheaply or at a profit at all -you wouldnt want an A&E dept run by temps or left unstaffed when a bean counter "forecasts" a period of low demand. What you end up with then is a basic public health provision of expensive unprofitable sectors with the rest of it cherry picked and in private hands - rather like the Spanish health service for instance - all of which is fine and dandy while you are young, fit and in work and can afford or are given private health cover, but no use to you whatsoever if you have a long term condition, are unemployed or retired, none of whom are welcome through the doors of your average private health provider.

I'll repeat this again, everyone who comments on this thread should first of all go to one of the private providers web sites and get a quote for a similer level of cover that they currently have in the NHS, its usually the "gold cover", then report back here what it would cost them, I have Aviva mailshotting me every month with quotes that range from £96 to £110 a month, thats just for me and not my family and is based on perfect health and no pre-existing conditions, and rather more sinister, certain limits on chronic or terminal conditions.

How on earth do you know how I voted?

If you think I voted Labour in 2010 then you really do know absolutely nothing

The tories have saved the profitable bits of the NHS for their backers to rape and plunder

How about believing the head of the BMA?

Dr Mark Porter, leader of the doctors' union, the British Medical Association, said the fund's findings were "clear evidence that our much-maligned NHS is one of the top-performing healthcare systems in the world."

However, he warned that the service's achievements were now at risk. "We should not be complacent as we are facing pressures that are threatening the high-quality care that the Commonwealth Fund has rightly praised. A combination of rising patient demand, staff shortages and falling funding is undermining the very foundations of the NHS, as is the constant short-term interference from politicians of all colours."

[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/17/nhs-health[/url

Your beloved Tory led government is going to wreck it all.

And just FYI, the NHS isn't (yet) totally privatised and as a state run organisation is now officially the 2nd cheapest and best performing in the developed world.

The most costly and worst performing is the fully privatised US healthcare system.

When faced with these simple facts, highlighted in the report, it takes special kind of stupidity to believe privatisation works in healthcare.

Oh goody, another Dave O prediction that we will all be able to laugh at in a few months time.

Just like the economy 'not picking up' before the election. Whooops.

One minute the NHS is dead and then next it's the greatest thing the world has ever seen.

Cod'ed should probably make his mind up....

I made my mind up a long time ago that you're an idiot.

My NHS RIP thread concerned the commencement of a long, slow decimation of the NHS, set in motion by this bunch of rapacious bastads. With luck, the electorate will see what they have started and fully intend to continue (should the be re-elected in 2015) and keep them away from a precious and outstanding narional asset

So you produce statistics from 2011-2013 that show the exact opposite?!

Right.

Presumably in around ten months time we'll all be reminded, in what was one of the biggest billboard campaigns, exactly what it was that David promised about the NHS in his 2010 election campaign.

No answers, just the same old insults.

Thank you for pointing out how great the NHS is under the Tory led government.

Because you helpfully told this site.



It seems I know a lot more than you think. You should read the Lib Dem manifesto, then come back here and tell us all how/why you voted to help "wreck it all".

You hate the Tories more than you give a toss about the NHS which keeps the most vulnerable almost healthy. So as each bit is sold off to the rich and powerful, just think to yourself, "I helped do that". Congratulations.

Had I (and others) not voted to prevent yet another tory snout getting into the trough, the NHS would've been flogged off quicker if a tory majority had been realised.

I don't hate tories more than I love the NHS, I hate tories more than absolutely anything