I've been to both and I'd rather live in Hull than smugly Pooteresque St feckin Albans, where the feelgood factor comes from their house prices and looking down their noses at Hemel Hempstead.

I refer to St Albans as Chav Central. It is, generally, populated by the pushy, rude, scuttling classes. In fact, the worst people on the whole railway line.

The problem with Hull is unlike places like London it has not yet embraced mass immigration, areas with a high level of cultural diversity and a significant Islamic population like London are far better in terms of social cohesion and general social behaviour than places like Hull that are just full of the traditional natives. I think the things that the Daily Mail has noticed about Hull need to be highlighted and should encourage the city to open its doors to multiculturalism.

Indeed. Anything that might serve to civilise the natives would be a good thing. People to set an example for them.

Try walking around Hull and then come back to me.

So Haggerston then?
Oh wait we have already established you are talking out of your hat so never mind.

When you say 'try' is that because you think it's unlikley that he / she would get far without being subjected to a criminal act?

We have no history of cultural diversity other then a high level of European ancestry, Scandinavian and Dutch names are very common in and around Hull. The city looks towards Europe perhaps more then any other it has always had links with immigrants, most passed through on there way to the USA. We have no employment opportunities for immigrants back in the 50s and 60s and thats why we do not have any. We do have large Polish contingent who have fitted in very well on the whole and have added to the food culture no end.

We have very little to none racial tension, like every large city we have our bigots but the national front/EDL have made little headway. The city has been a port for centuries and has welcomed many nationalities and faiths over that time. We should also remember that the anti slave movement was born with this city, William Wilberforce and Thomas Clarkson so lets get away from using the racial card.

The city of Hull has the same problems as many in this land, however we do not have a gun problem and the use knives is rare. Its a safer place to live then some city's not too far away and one I am happy to live in.

[iThe only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing [/i- Socrates

I note you seem to think you know everthing.

Maybe if they were in central Hull but not as likely as if they were in Haggeston something that you cannot seriously argue away.
Like I say in future think before you post so as not to let you look like you are a one eyed idiot.

I have never stated I know everything you have just made that up (At least you are consistent)................I just happen to clearly know a damn sight more than you.
But then again who doesn't, I would argue my 1 year old has more of a clue than you do.

at this thread.

Please keep it open so we can all have a laugh at Dally and his info from the Department of Made Up Facts.

They're not made up. They're just "off-site". Never heard anyone describe their home as "on" or "off-site" before. Maybe it goes someway to explaining Dally's particular outlook on life.

Has he run out of Werthers or something? Strange,strange person!

I am having huge fun TBH.
Have I reached 'ownage' on him yet I can never tell?

No. You're just making a fool of yourself with your inability to even consider anything that doesn't conform to what you wish.

Come to Hull one day soft lad, i'll show you how rough it is

This is great

Yeah I can't help sticking to facts.
Just making stuff up must be so much easier for you.


Anyway are you still stating that one area shows what a full city is like as you were previously or now that I have shown the stats for Haggerston are you going to decide to stop talking rubbish?
Unless Of Course you agree that ALL of London is a no go area.

Ill tell you what just so we are clear everytime you post in this thread you are going to get a one word responce.
That word will be 'Haggerston' seeing as that is the HUGE fly in you ointment of 'truth'.
Keep on spouting sweetheart and see what you get

I thought I was the one you quoted / linked to facts?

Now, isn't it your bedtime?

The comparison he made between crime rates in Hull City Centre and other areas were meaningless and 'cherry picked' to show Hull in the worst possible light.

Haggerston

The first area of Liverpool I picked was L6, which has a higher crime rate than the very condensed Hull City centre area that Dally picked out at the beginning of the thread so Dally, your silly little finger pointing diatribe has been shown to be based on untruths and manipulation of a set of 'facts'.

I haven't lived in Hull since the late 80s when I thought things were pretty bad then. It is true that Hull does have some problems and there are inherrent issues with education & the attitude of some of the populous, however you can pretty much write the exact same story from looking at most cities/large towns in the UK.
From an anecdotal POV I feel safe when I'm in Hull, not because I was born there but you get a flavour of it and I don't have to think twice about walking the streets alone at night (I wouldn't go out of my way mind in an area I didn't know)

However there are a fair few parts of the UK that I would never do the same even though I know I can handle myself and not exactly vulnerable looking. There are some seriously dangerous people on the streets especially London, Manchester & Liverpool amongst a few places I'd just avoid even during the day time to be perfectly frank.

Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Haggerston '" www.chavtowns.co.uk/top-10-worst ... n-england/ I rest my case.

Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Haggerston '" www.chavtowns.co.uk/top-10-worst ... n-england/ I rest my case.

Two lines in it states...

Yes rest that case ... it's empty though.
Mind you that thar Minty has a lot to answer for ...

She's a bad 'un she is.