When G4S got the **** kicked out of them because of the Olympics, did you care?

When G4S got the **** kicked out of them because of over-charging for tagging, did you care?

If the kicking that G4S gets is 100 times more vicious they they actually deserve, do you care?

I don't think you do. I think you are happy that your political opponents are covered in the BS bomb.

I think the media is biased towards sensation. It doesn't matter who can be blamed for 15,000 needless UK deaths. If someone can have that pinned on them then the media will be all over it. If it's Labour NHS, Tory NHS, private hospitals, the Ford Motor Co, the media are still going to be all over it because 15,000 people dying in the UK needlessly is a pretty staggering number.

Did the rest of the media go easy on Rupert Murdoch because he's one of their group who are pushing their agenda? Did they hell. They sensed blood and they stuck their sharpened knives into him. They did that because it was a sensational media scandal and that's what they feed on.

PS - I don't have a "political opponent" - in the past I've voted for all three main parties, and some not-so-main ones.

You keep claiming that politicians, with the press in the back pocket, are doing everything they can to privatise the NHS.

These aren't your political opponents?

I don't see them as "opponents" in the sense that the whole of parliament is run in an adversary style and the majority of voters "pick sides", often because their parents/grandparents/etc did - I don't go in for football supporter politics, they are all fair game for criticism and praise.

I happily concede that there MAY be areas of the NHS that are far more suitable for private ownership than a publicly owned operation, lets pick one, patient transport for instance - it may be cheaper for a Trust to send taxi's around the district picking up patients for appointments that the ambulance service would otherwise have to do - if that is the case then the current government would receive my support for doing that and not get an automatic criticism just because the blue & yellow side of the house suggested it and not the red side.

Unfortunately its not working like that, there is a political dogma at work behind the scenes and if the Conservatives win in 2015 with a majority of their own (and who is going to oppose them other than the voters, who can easily be led by the nose by a compliant media), then I believe we will see the acceleration of that dogma to a place in 2020 that we would not have believed possible.

How true this is.
BBC Breakfast presenter this morning telling the plebs that, ''we are all waiting for the royal baby'', and ''thank goodness she is in an air conditioned hospital'', whilst in labour.

BBC Radio News reader just two minutes ago ...

"Kate Middleton is now in labour, something which is not without risk..."

Dear God are they preparing us for some terrible news later today, I'm on tenterhooks and will not venture far from a radio today as I'm sur enone of you will ...

Bloody left-wing royal sycophants.

Yes, the [uentire nation[/u is waiting to hear that an heir has been produced ... I must be on my own in my almost total indifference then.
At least it doesn't matter whether it's a boy or a girl nowadays as we've got that tricky primogeniture issue sorted, thank goodness we're not living in the past anymore.

I'm hoping it's a nice "brown" baby like Waynetta Slob wanted.

Apart from women who really, really get off on babies and the ultra royalists I don't think anyone else really gives a damn. I think there is a slight compulsion to act like it's important. But I think the journos are just as indifferent as everyone but feel they have to exaggerate so they don't cause offence.

... apart from Nicholas Witchell, I guess, as he only gets on-screen these days to stand outside hospitals.

Would he be as excited about the issue if he'd been replaced as royal correspondent? He might be. All that time covering the subject could have converted him into the countries biggest royalist.

But I think if he'd been replaced by someone new his feelings would be more focused on hatred towards the new person for stealing his job.

You seem pretty hot at surmising other peoples thought process.
Are you a psychoanalyst by any chance?

Is anyone checking the bedpans on the way in?

Thank you.



No.

But I can tell that you want to cry because I've made you feel like the fool you fear you are.

I don't know whether it would be better for you to continue with your tantrum or just let the tears flow. It's a difficult one and you're really not worth thinking about too much.

That'll be a first won't it?

See, me personally, I just fooking love it when the likes of you, and that other thicko, Ajw, have to make themselves feel better by declaring they've made somebody else look foolish.

You really haven't petal, but I'm prepared to let you get on with it if it helps with your own insecurities, bless.

I haven't made you look foolish. You have.

IMO an independent witness to our discussions would definitely say that I've been right in our "discussions" and you are just a stupid tit. (They probably think I'm a t**t though. I can deal with that. I would prefer to be a t**t that is actually right than a fool like you and be perceived as "nicer"icon_wink.gif

But I admit I'm biased. I could be just as stupid as you and I could be deluding myself in a similar way that I think you delude yourself. I honestly have had this thought and the nature of self-perception and self-protecting biases do worry me.

The nature of these forums don't help. People don't get involved and say who they think is in the right and who is wrong.

If somebody thinks I'm wrong I welcome their input. I prefer it to be reasoned and factual though, rather than "this is my opinion and I don't have to justify it."

I'd love to know where you appear to think you've made me look foolish, but as you yourself have stated, you [iare,[/i quite possibly, deluded.
Don't bother.

Given your track record on this and various other threads, you seem to be the Sin Bin's very own David Icke.

You have a message(s) and keep banging it(them) out, however much they are repeated doesn't make them any more correct than when you first uttered them

At least he's not paranoid.

I think he is an excellent poster and talks a lot of sense.

His "Bull Bomb" post was pretty spot on.

I offer my opinions. I offer the reasoning of my opinions. If my opinions and reasoning are wrong then it should be easy for other people to quote me and show that I'm wrong.

That, IMO, is not what people do.

Take the Zimmerman trial on the TV thread. It is a subject that disturbs me because of many issues.

Mintball's opinion is that it's an injustice caused by massive US racism. That's Mintball's opinion, and by word she's going to keep that opinion. Doesn't offer any reasons behind that opinion, but hey, it's her opinion and she has a right to it.

I wrote at length about why the details of the case in no way supported what she said.

Mintball disappeared.

That's pretty much how the Sin Bin works.

I'm not surprised about how your characterise me. I've disagreed with you. I have said offensive things to you just as I've said offensive things to many people that employ the "it's my opinion and I don't have to defend it" stance. (I'm not saying you have done that. I don't remember the details of our previous discussions.)

I think calling me Sin Bin's David Icke is massively wrong. But Icke thinks the criticism of him is often wrong too, and he's obviously a nutter. I might be suffering from a similar delusion. But on reading back many of the arguments I've had I don't think so.

I do think that perhaps my participation in forums is pointless. I do enjoy deep debate but it seems my my method of pointing out where I think people are wrong and why is not really wanted.

Cod'ead called me The Sin Bin's David Icke. That's a pretty harsh criticism. I can take it. I think it's wrong.

I know he is among many people who I have taken the gloves off before during a debate. I hold my hands up that I have over-stepped the line and hit with a low blow. I don't think he's going to forgive me for that. Nor forget.

He might be right about me being SB's Icke. But he could just be biased against me because he holds a grudge. I'm not in a position to judge.

Do you dare to ask him his unvarnished opinions of you? Will you cry if he tells you just how stupid he thinks you are?

No, I'd probably laugh if he thinks I'm stupid.
See, I'm a bit older, and wiser, and less paranoid than you.
I don't really give two fooks what people think about me. you may get there one day.

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Stop whining and man up you wet t0sser!