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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Oh well, the post mortem result states that the nurse hanged herself. A note from her for her family was also found at the scene. There can be no debate about her death being a suicide now.'"
Maybe you should have a word with the authorities, it seems a great waste of public money to adjurn the inquest until March 2013. What's the point when you already know what the conclusion is?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"She probably got a right good fooking off her gaffers, although they denied it.
They would, wouldn't they?'"
Straw that perhaps broke the fragile camels back?
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"Well, well. Informed comment predicted there would be more to come out in the wash, '"
Your balloon really popped at the little bit that's comeout so far, didn't it? As I've tried to point out to you, normal people already knew that the full wash will only come out during the inquest. The ony question is why some people are so thick that they think stating this bleedin' self-evident fact is a ground-breaking insight.
Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"...and we now find out that there were three separate suicide notes left by this disturbed person. '"
Wrong again. Do you have reading or comprehension issues? We have not been given much detail, but it was reported that she left two notes relating to (a) the presenters and (b) the hospital management; a third note was said to be instructions to her family, concerning her funeral arrangements etc. However, it does pop one of your balloons ("What sort of reasonably normal person kills themselves over a work incident"icon_wink.gif. Increasingly obviously, the sort of reasonably normal person that was Jacinta Saldanha.
Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"The longest of which is reported as a massive whinge against the Hospital Authorities. '"
Are you saying this because hopefully at last you are happy to accept that this is indeed a reasonably normal person who has killed herself over a work incident, (better late than never) or are you still implying that her death was "very convenient"" for the hospital authorities? If you are sticking to your guns, then it was a bit remiss of them not to get rid of that note, wasn't it?
Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"I do hope this doesn't set off the usual suspects on another knee jerking 20 page conspiracy diatribe....'"
... says the original conspiracist as his biplane, "Dark Hints", heads for the ground in flames. You couldn't make it up. Yes it would be merciful if you would accept your "first and second thoughts" were nonsense, and withdraw them. Doubt it will happen though.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"icon_lol.gif snip Yes it would be merciful if you would accept your "first and second thoughts" were nonsense, and withdraw them. Doubt it will happen though.'"
Even now you still try to defend your indefensible position. =#FF0000Your view simplified is that It was so obvious that more would come out in the wash that it was a ridiculous and obvious thing to say
Yet when someone states the obvious you start an 8 page thread accusing someone of stating the obvious of being a conspiracy theorist.
Yet the reality is simple as more comes out in the wash we will see the truth or more of the truth about what happened such as the contents of letter NO2 which details how Ms Saldanha felt about the hospital managements actions.
That will tell us about where the responsibility or blame lies maybe a little less against the two DJs and a bit more about the role of the hospital managers and the role of the radio station managers.
At the time of RS post many on here were quick to blame the two DJS solely for what happened. Some of us thought that was a bit simplistic.
Sounds like there is still a lot more to come out in the wash or am i stating the obvious and likely to be labelled a conspiracy theorist
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| Do keep up FA.
If you were asked by the nice nurse how many jelly babies were on your bedside cabinet, and there was a red one, a black one and an orange one, take a moment now, what is the answer?
Come along now, it's not a trick question...... yes, it's THREE. Good boy!
And if nursey was to replace them with the same number of your favourite toys?....yes, that is also THREE!
Similarly, if you were to substitute those for letters scrawled in your bestest handwriting to Santa?......No, it doesn't matter what you have put inside the envelopes....you'd like a big red fire engine ....yes, you DO sound just like the siren on one of them,... but if we could just concentrate a little bit longer?.... that would also be THREE!
Good Boy. Doctor Rumpel is pleased with your progress today.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Even now you still try to defend your indefensible position. =#FF0000Your view simplified is that It was so obvious that more would come out in the wash that it was a ridiculous and obvious thing to say'"
Not a view, a statement of simple fact. And thus in no need of "defence" any more than stone needs defence against being called stone.
Quote ="Durham Giant"Yet when someone states the obvious you start an 8 page thread '"
Are you a moderator? Seriously? Then you need to get a better hang on how a forum works. I "made a post". Neither I nor anyone "starts an 8 page thread". Threads run into pages due to the number of people who are interested in the subject and who make posts on the subject. The more interest, the more replies, the more pages. So what are you talking about?
That aside, it is ironic - and makes you look really stupid - to say I started the thread. I only came in on PAGE ELEVEN, whereas you yourself had been regularly expounding your views for the previous ten.
Quote ="Durham Giant" accusing someone of stating the obvious of being a conspiracy theorist.'"
Are you too thick to stop conflating those two separate things however many times I point your error out? I did not "accuse" R. of being a conspiracy theorist, his post did that for him.
Quote ="Durham Giant"Yet the reality is simple as more comes out in the wash we will see the truth or more of the truth about what happened such as the contents of letter NO2 which details how Ms Saldanha felt about the hospital managements actions.'"
And? All I took issue with was R's nutty dark conspiracy hints. The seeming fact that Mrs Saldanha was upset with hospital management is irrelevant to his supposed conspiracy. Or indeed to my comments, since I've pointed out more than once that there was reason to believe she was upset with the hospital management.
Quote ="Durham Giant"That will tell us about where the responsibility or blame lies maybe a little less against the two DJs and a bit more about the role of the hospital managers and the role of the radio station managers.'"
Indeed it may. But as from the outset I have personally attributed the lion's share of the blame to the radio station managers, rather than the DJs, and still do, why are you telling me?
Quote ="Durham Giant"At the time of RS post many on here were quick to blame the two DJS solely for what happened. Some of us thought that was a bit simplistic.'"
Indeed. Except you forgot that I was probably the first of "us" to say that?
Quote ="Durham Giant"Sounds like there is still a lot more to come out in the wash or am i stating the obvious and likely to be labelled a conspiracy theorist'"
You really need to stop conflating those two separate issues in your head. It is not worth pointing it out to you again. Only you can choose to finally grasp the point, if you wish.
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"Do keep up FA.
If you were asked by the nice nurse how many jelly babies were on your bedside cabinet, and there was a red one, a black one and an orange one, take a moment now, what is the answer?
Come along now, it's not a trick question...... yes, it's THREE. Good boy!
And if nursey was to replace them with the same number of your favourite toys?....yes, that is also THREE!
Similarly, if you were to substitute those for letters scrawled in your bestest handwriting to Santa?......No, it doesn't matter what you have put inside the envelopes....you'd like a big red fire engine ....yes, you DO sound just like the siren on one of them,... but if we could just concentrate a little bit longer?.... that would also be THREE!
Good Boy. Doctor Rumpel is pleased with your progress today.'"
I'll bet you are even quite pleased with this embarrassing drivel. I hope it doesn't get deleted as it speaks volumes about the poster.
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| So the nurse who killed herself apparently left a note blaming the two Djs for her killing herself. No live, the only person to blame is yourself, you selfishly killed yourself.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"So the nurse who killed herself apparently left a note blaming the two Djs for her killing herself. No live, the only person to blame is yourself, you selfishly killed yourself.'"
Its a point of view I suppose.
On the other hand the rugby league world is well aware of just how fragile the human mind can be and how close the tipping point is in some people when reasoning goes awry and a person who yesterday was sharing a pint with you in a pub and laughing and joking without a care in the world can the next day take their own life leaving family behind.
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| I think we're all forgetting thw most important thing here; How does Kate feel about it all?
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"the only person to blame is yourself, you selfishly killed yourself.'"
Ignorant cvnt.
Quote ="JerryChicken"Its a point of view I suppose.
On the other hand the rugby league world is well aware of just how fragile the human mind can be and how close the tipping point is in some people when reasoning goes awry and a person who yesterday was sharing a pint with you in a pub and laughing and joking without a care in the world can the next day take their own life leaving family behind.'"
Thank you.
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"sick as a parrot, I believe....'"
Poor Kate. Do you think she will be ok?
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Poor Kate. Do you think she will be ok?'"
She'll pull through, I'm sure.
A bout of morning sickness leading to a burial in Shirva, India today.
Who'd a thunk it?
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| Hmmmm.... Pregnant woman goes to hospital because she is ill - seems quite sensible to me.
On the other hand; media whip the situation into a frenzy so they can make money and two Aussie chancers pull an ill advised stunt to try to further their own careers ........... leading to a burial in Shirva India today.
Who'd a thunk it?
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Hmmmm.... Pregnant woman goes to hospital because she is ill - seems quite sensible to me.
On the other hand; media whip the situation into a frenzy so they can make money and two Aussie chancers pull an ill advised stunt to try to further their own careers ........... leading to a burial in Shirva India today.
Who'd a thunk it?'"
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| Quote ="Dreamer"?'"
You can add a variety of circumstances.
Then give them a good old shake.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You can add a variety of circumstances.
Then give them a good old shake.'"
Yes, it seems so.
I am sure that a member of the press will be able to bribe a "source close to the family" for a copy of the suicide letters leading to a subsequent rash of conspiracy theories.
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| [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.htmlhmmmmmm[/url
Will we now have that upstanding Labour politician, Mr Keith Vaz, appearing on our Christmas screens to explain this curious omission from all previous well orchestrated Media briefings?
And perhaps, a grateful, but polite refusal of the half a million Aussie Dollar compo offered by the radio company?
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.htmlhmmmmmm[/url
Will we now have that upstanding Labour politician, Mr Keith Vaz, appearing on our Christmas screens to explain this curious omission from all previous well orchestrated Media briefings?
And perhaps, a grateful, but polite refusal of the half a million Aussie Dollar compo offered by the radio company?'"
Does it really make a difference though ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Does it really make a difference though ?'"
Of course it doesn't, except to those wanting to blame the nurse for killing herself. Only a true cretin would be surprised by the reports that she was a vulnerable individual. But there are as many of those as there are vulnerable people.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Of course it doesn't, except to those wanting to blame the nurse for killing herself. Only a true cretin would be surprised by the reports that she was a vulnerable individual. But there are as many of those as there are vulnerable people.'"
Yes, I just thought that rugby league supporters might understand that.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Does it really make a difference though ?'"
To what? That this woman is dead and no amount of new information is going to change that? True, but given the world wide media furore that her act caused, it think it reasonable to evaluate all new information.
And perhaps give those who were so eager to pontificate and jump to conclusions, a chance to wipe the copius amounts of egg from off their faces.
But you are right. This was a mother with mental health problems, possibly exaggerbated by spending her working week away from her family in London, who took her own life. She deserves our sympathy, but it is her family who deserve our compassion.
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