[url=http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/220638-council-says-stay-away-from-george-square-party-for-thatcher/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterThere's a party planned for George Square, Glasgow tonight[/url

You can't say that on here - Mr Fish & Mrs Mint will be on you in no time

Ah, you CAN say that on here though, can't you? Even though it's complete and utter bollox.

Unfortunately, regardless of how necessary the railing back of Union power might have been she went on to do far more harm than good, as has been listed elsewhere. Her policies were the root cause of our housing crisis & benefits crisis just for starters.

If you think those suffering with mental health problems were better looked after in the old asylum system then I would ask whether you have ever worked in one? I did. In Carlisle. While care in the community was a disaster in some ways, the asylum system was already a disaster in many more ways. My boss, the unit manager at Garlands Hospital, had to regularly rotate his nursing and auxiliary staff in order to avoid abuse because getting people who actually CARED about those they were paid to look after was very, very difficult. There were indeed some very devoted nurses in that unit who worked very hard to make life comfortable for those who were often extremely challenging as a result of their illnesses, but they were not the majority of staff. And the conditions in which clients lived were far from comfortable even though, in the case of Carlisle, they were surrounded by lovely countryside and still pretty much outside the city walls (which is where many asylums were built - out of sight; out of mind). There was much wrong with the asylum system. Some wasn't fixed by care in the community and indeed new problems were added, but retaining the asylum system for all mental health sufferers was most definitely not the way to go.

You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?

I disagree. She actually introduced benefits during her period in power and the right to buy was genius: it enabled people who had lived in their council houses for yonks to actually own what they had almost paid for anyway in rent at a further discount price. The take up was substantial. People take pride in what they own.

All of which would have been quite laudable if she'd allowed the proceeds to be reinvested in new, affordable social housing. But she didn't, for purely ideological reasons. And now there's a massive shortage of affordable housing.

The irony of it was a fair few miners bought their council houses...with their redundancy payoff.

Personally couldn't stand the women...Ripped my community part. Had the Falklands war hadn't happened she probably wouldn't have got a second term.

Well said

what a disgusting thread, extremely bad taste.

condolensces to her family

And by legislating so that Local Authorities could not use the money from council house sales to build more council houses contributed massively to lack of affordable and social housing we see now.

The net result is that Osborne is taxing spare bedrooms to penalise people who live in council housing because there is not enough council housing to go around.

Do you honestly believe that only happened in 1979?

It happens every winter, my mate died in hospital on 9th March, he was buried on 2nd April. He died in hospital of major organ failure, the PM was completed within two days. The delay in burial was simply down to the fact that more people die in winter than the system can cope with.

As for rubbish piling up in the streets, take a look at Birmingham after the last snows, it took nearly three weeks to clear the black bags

Disgusting thread? She was a disgusting woman, grim reaping what she sowed.

Quote ="Sal Paradise"You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?'" Can we blame them for price fixing? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7132108.stm For selling horse meat labelled as something else? for completely losing track of where their food comes from? For selling illegal cloned meat? www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink ... chain.html For misleading pricing? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20543107 For holding undeveloped land banks? www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 69513.html back labelling and selling out of date foods? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6676345.stm

Quote ="Sal Paradise"You miss the obvious point about retail - giving customers reasons to want to shop with you - don't blame the supermarkets because smaller retailers are incapable of presenting a proposition that customers deem worthy of taking up. There are still hundreds of independent food retailers what is it that they have that those who have gone out of business don't?'" Can we blame them for price fixing? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7132108.stm For selling horse meat labelled as something else? for completely losing track of where their food comes from? For selling illegal cloned meat? www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink ... chain.html For misleading pricing? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20543107 For holding undeveloped land banks? www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 69513.html back labelling and selling out of date foods? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6676345.stm

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette?commentpage=7The dictate that one 'not speak ill of the dead' is (at best) appropriate for private individuals, not influential public figures[/url

Let's hope there's a sizeable turnout of protesters at her funeral and she gets the send off she so richly deserves.

Looks like the sick, twisted sadists are out in force. Wonder how they would feel if people celebrated the death of their loved ones. Also shows the so-called "humanitarianism" of the left for what it truly is - a total facade to cover the fact that left-wingers don't care about facts, morality or human life, just an outdated totalitarian theory of government and economics.

Thatcher did more to raise the material condition of the British people, including the working classes, in 11 years than socialism achieved in c70 years in the USSR. Of course lefties like Big Graeme don't really care about the poor, just his own nonsensical ideology.

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9979387/Manchester-United-v-Manchester-City-no-minutes-silence-for-Margaret-Thatcher-ahead-of-derby.htmlNo minute's silence at Old Trafford tonight[/url

Wise move, I can't imagine that would have been observed with any dignity

Read the article McLennan has linked to.

Good to see you've got control of your computer back

Let's face it people can only get away with that bull because Hitler never had any kids.

My family owned St Johns mine on the Newlands Estate in Normanton. It closed after the miners strike. It was one of the biggest mines in the area and many miners would have lost their jobs. If anyone knows the area knows what has happened to the mine and the surrounding estate. Its in rack and ruin. Such a shame as it had been in the family for nearly 100 years.

13 years of Labour in charge yet all Thatchers fault, it's like blaming my CEO of 13 years ago rather than than the one in charge for 13 years since.

Wasn't the 3 day week also started by the extreme militant minors union that thought they ran this country?

The unions were almost guilty of treason possibly even terrorism by the back door.