Your arrogance is staggering. Actually it's not. The thought of apologising to Anakin Skywalker for completely insulting him hasn't even crossed your mind.

where did I insult him, I said there are jobs, he's found one, I'm hapy for him.
but for the record, if Annakin was insulted by me then I do apologise.

No, of course you didn't:









Before throwing your hissy fit and leaving with



Of course you weren't being condescending and insulting

Nail, head, hit.

I wonder whether Standee will [iever[/i answer the question about what a person is to do if they've had a family whilst employed, then they become unemployed.

On his other, somewhat ridiculous point, I've done a few calculations:

If a person is offered a job away from his family at, say, £8 per hour, his gross income would be £320 per week. Let's say he loses about 25 percent of that to tax and NI, leaving a net income of £240.

If he can find exceptionally basic digs, he might have to pay £100 for the week, leaving £140. Then, if his wife works full time, he'll need to pay a childminder to drop off and collect his children from school. Let's say about £60 (on the low side) for that, leaving £80.

Then take into account the cost of travelling to and from wherever he will be working, and the fact that his food bill will likely increase by being away and you could easily account for another £30.

So, what you're saying is that a person should leave his home for the majority of the week, not see his children or wife except on weekends all for the princely sum of fifty quid? That's working on £8 per hour, don't forget, and probably underestimating expenses. Many jobs will probably be a lot less than that.

If you genuinely believe that is reasonable, you're either a total idiot, or a total sh[ii[/it.

They've also got to pay for the fuel/fare to get to wherever this job is in the country and back, I reckon by this point you'd be into a negative.

I included that, but at a very conservative estimate. Third paragraph from the end. I didn't include travel between work and the digs though, so that would be an additional expense.

If everyone had your viewpoint the UK would have no population within 100 years.
Like I said you have no clue what you are on about.

My children and aged 1 and 2.
So it will be fulltime childcare so we can pretty much confirm it would actually cost me to work away.

You weren't the specific example I was using, as I didn't know your circumstances. It is a good point though: is it 30 quid a day most nurseries charge these days? Per child. By the reckoning, you'd be making quite a big loss.

I want to live in standee's perfect world

I want to live in standee's perfect world

I don't. People there are very selfish.

That cannot be right can it?
I mean Standee says it is easy and anyone who disagrees and can't make the sums add up is a lazy waster.

Fear not. I'm sure Standee will be along in a minute to tell us how it all works. Perhaps he knows where you can get free childcare, digs and petrol.

Either that or he'll just tell you that you shouldn't have had children without checking your crystal ball to see what your future employment prospects were.

What's fairly sad is that the lad hasn't been stuck in a little village all his life, oblivious to the world around him.
As far as I can gather he's worked in both London and B'ham, at least, for periods.

How big is that bubble of his?
Hasn't he got any half reality how the real world works?

Apparently not!

Also let us not forget that our beloved Gideon is adding another 3p on a litre in January and another 5p in August which will add to travel, Food and clothing costs.
I mean I know Thatcher was a hard faced **** but my god even she wasn't this delusional.

no bubble here, it's a hard world, you either get on with it, or you bleat about it on RLFans each and every day.

life isn't fair, go figure, survival of the fittest I am afraid, the system and the way the world works is fundamentally wrong, I agree, but a few people rattling their keyboard isn't going to change it, nor will a few deluded individuals sitting in tents obstructing people going about their daily (and lawful) business.

Survival of the fittest eh?

So you have never availed yourself of the NHS?

Never taken advantage of a state-sponsored education system?

All you have ever required in life has been provided by you or by your parents before you were able to provide for yourself?

If the answer is yes to the above, then you really do have a right to moan about other "taking advantage", or you could simply keep your trap shut and continue looking after you and yours alone and not caring what happens to the "others"

Have you noticed they only person who doesn't think you are clueless and delusional is infact you.
There is a clue there is you look hard enough.

I bet his parents next door neighbours were called [iJones[/i in that little cul-de-sac he grew up in.

why should I keep my trap shut, my opinion is no less valid than yours, it's just different.

About those figures I posted. Any response? Do you still think that anyone who doesn't take whatever job they can get, even if it ends up costing them money, is a waster?

And anakin is not bleating about his predicament. He is joining in a discussion about unemployment and slave labour.

And repugnant.