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| Quote ="Dally"This weeks DM has had at least 4 articles on the miscreants of Hull this week alone:
Mother going clubbing whilst her young kids were wondering the streets naked and covered in faeces.
Mother abusing her son (outside Hull itself, but tried in the Court there).
Teachers sacked for calling the locals thick and inbred on the internet.
Rape case.
Is Hull really that bad these days?'" Hull is the 'in' target ATM.
Take BBC breakfast this week.
They were in Hull stating how some kids get to Senior school with very poor english.
The very next article involved having a conversation with Michelle Dewberry on the settee who is a very successful business woman from Hull who admits she wasn't well educated.
Guess what?.......You guessed it the fact she was from Hull and could have been a nice link to the previous story was just not mentioned.
I mean heaven forbid that Hull gets any good coverage eh!!
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| It appears Dally is doing his thing of taking a couple of reported incidents and then deciding that some part of the country is wrong and worse than the rest. He'll be telling you that people from Hull are morally depraved, next. Followed by claiming he has indisputable, official government statistics that fully support his claim. Followed by those statistics mysteriously disappearing.
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| Quote ="Him"It appears Dally is doing his thing of taking a couple of reported incidents and then deciding that some part of the country is wrong and worse than the rest. He'll be telling you that people from Hull are morally depraved, next. Followed by claiming he has indisputable, official government statistics that fully support his claim. Followed by those statistics mysteriously disappearing.'"
He left them on a shelf upstairs and someone borrowed them. Hardly his fault!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He left them on a shelf upstairs and someone borrowed them. Hardly his fault!'"
Actually, I was looking for a Titan text but he's moved out and taaken that one with him.
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| Quote ="Dally"Quote ="Rock God X"He left them on a shelf upstairs and someone borrowed them. Hardly his fault!'"
Actually, I was looking for a Titan text but he's moved out and taaken that one with him.'"
Ah, well. You'll just have to leave yet another of your assertions unsupported by any facts or evidence.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Ah, well. You'll just have to leave yet another of your assertions unsupported by any facts or evidence.'"
I shall send you them one day - could be a while, but rest assured I will.
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| Quote ="Dally"Quote ="Rock God X"Ah, well. You'll just have to leave yet another of your assertions unsupported by any facts or evidence.'"
I shall send you them one day - could be a while, but rest assured I will.'"
Yes. Yes, of course.
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| You're going back over months there. I'm sure if we did that in Hull's paper we'd fill the server up.
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| Quote ="Dally"You're going back over months there. I'm sure if we did that in Hull's paper we'd fill the server up.'" Prove it or shut it.
Simple really.
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Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Prove it or shut it.
Simple really.'"
Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).
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Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Prove it or shut it.
Simple really.'"
Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).
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Quote ="Dally"Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).'" But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
Infact that 'small area' you found is over double anywhere alse in Hull and infact most of the city is in single figures.
So no so much of 'Just a small part' and more like the 'only part'.
But you already knew this didn't you.
Maybe I will use you logic and state that hull is a great place to live due to the fact that just a small part of Hull is at 3.85?
Or would that not suit your agenda?
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Quote ="Dally"Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).'" But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
Infact that 'small area' you found is over double anywhere alse in Hull and infact most of the city is in single figures.
So no so much of 'Just a small part' and more like the 'only part'.
But you already knew this didn't you.
Maybe I will use you logic and state that hull is a great place to live due to the fact that just a small part of Hull is at 3.85?
Or would that not suit your agenda?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
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Of course, it'll vary. But I've tried Hackney, Brixton, several renowned areas of Liverpool, etc and central Hull has a rate several TIMES higher than all. Why? I'll try Salford next.
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| Salford, rate less than a third of Hull's.
I'll leave it to you to see if you can find somewhere with a higher rate.
Found one for you - I just thought of other cess-pits I'd visited and Cardiff came up trumps! not in England though.
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Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="Dally"Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).'" But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
Infact that 'small area' you found is over double anywhere alse in Hull and infact most of the city is in single figures.
So no so much of 'Just a small part' and more like the 'only part'.
But you already knew this didn't you.
Maybe I will use you logic and state that hull is a great place to live due to the fact that just a small part of Hull is at 3.85?
Or would that not suit your agenda?'"
You're wasting your time. Dally decides what his opinion is, then tries to manipulate the data to suit his agenda. Or omits to present any data whatsoever.
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Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="Dally"Just a small part of the city for one month:
www.police.uk/crime/?q=Hull,%20K ... od/2012-02
44.17 crimes / 1,000 people
cf Central Widnes 16.97 /1,000
cf Where i live 3.35 / 1,000
So it does seem the people of Hull are rather unruly (to put it politely). To put it in perspective, a crime rate approx. 3 times higher than Birkenhead (aka Crack City).'" But yet another part of Hull is at 13.09.
Which is rather funny when YOU have used the word 'perspective' eh!
Infact that 'small area' you found is over double anywhere alse in Hull and infact most of the city is in single figures.
So no so much of 'Just a small part' and more like the 'only part'.
But you already knew this didn't you.
Maybe I will use you logic and state that hull is a great place to live due to the fact that just a small part of Hull is at 3.85?
Or would that not suit your agenda?'"
You're wasting your time. Dally decides what his opinion is, then tries to manipulate the data to suit his agenda. Or omits to present any data whatsoever.
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| Quote ="Dally"Of course, it'll vary. But I've tried Hackney, Brixton, several renowned areas of Liverpool, etc and central Hull has a rate several TIMES higher than all. Why? I'll try Salford next.'" Woah dont back pedal to much you may break you bike.
I mean let us not forget that you failed to mention you were talking about 'Central Hull' as you stated 'Just a small part'.
Maybe if you had been more clear in clarifiying your agenda folks may not be able to make you look a chump so easily.
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| Quote ="Dally"Salford, rate less than a third of Hull's.
I'll leave it to you to see if you can find somewhere with a higher rate.
Found one for you - I just thought of other cess-pits I'd visited and Cardiff came up trumps! not in England though.'" You do realise how much of a fool you sound right?
Again You seem to not understand your own arguement as you have stated 'Hull's' that isn't true as I have already stated.
Still At least it passes you some time.
Perhaps you could apply for a job in government after all they seem to be unable to make themselves look like anything but gibbering idiots too.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Woah dont back pedal to much you may break you bike.
I mean let us not forget that you failed to mention you were talking about 'Central Hull' as you stated 'Just a small part'.
Maybe if you had been more clear in clarifiying your agenda folks may not be able to make you look a chump so easily.'"
You are a prize one! You asked me to back up my assertion that Hull seemed to have a high crime rate. So I searched Hull - not surprisingly Central Hull came up. I am not familiar with the good / bad areas of Hull, so it's entirely reasonable. Hackney will probably have a population larger than Hull's and is a deprived inner city borough. I also searches areas like Birkenhead, Kirkby, Toxteth and Bootle - none came close to Hull.
Again, I ask - why?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You're wasting your time. Dally decides what his opinion is, then tries to manipulate the data to suit his agenda. Or omits to present any data whatsoever.'" True but when a jumped up little twerp starts spouting rubbish I'm gunna call him on it.
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| Having refined my searches I note that Central Leeds has more than twice the crime rate of Hull! must be a Yorkshire thing.
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| Quote ="Dally"You are a prize one! You asked me to back up my assertion that Hull seemed to have a high crime rate. So I searched Hull - not surprisingly Central Hull came up. I am not familiar with the good / bad areas of Hull, so it's entirely reasonable. Hackney will probably have a population larger than Hull's and is a deprived inner city borough. I also searches areas like Birkenhead, Kirkby, Toxteth and Bootle - none came close to Hull.
Again, I ask - why?'" I don't know why.
But when you look at the rest of the data it seems strange that only one area of the city is classed as red.
I mean if Hull was as bad as you suggested with 'Fill the servers up' line surely more than one area would be red?.
Surely?
But wait no where else in Hull is it red, Infact those that live in the city will tell you that the Greenwood (I was brought up on OPE) and Bransholme wards are by far and away the worst but guess what............Thats right they are both yellow.
Given all that info it is totally possible that there are other factors in play here but sorry I forgot you have an agenda to massage I mean why else would you have started this thread.
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| Quote ="Dally"Having refined my searches I note that Central Leeds has more than twice the crime rate of Hull! must be a Yorkshire thing.'" So in other words you were infact talking garbage.
Thanks for the clarification.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So in other words you were infact talking garbage.
Thanks for the clarification.'"
Why? Still a higher rate than in many bigger impoverished boroughs.
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| Quote ="Dally"Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So in other words you were infact talking garbage.
Thanks for the clarification.'"
Why? Still a higher rate than in many bigger impoverished boroughs.'"
Over one month in one area of the city. This is so far from 'proof' of your assertion that you're surpassing even your own standards in stupidity by suggesting it.
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