Lip servce from Hudge www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-kr- ... story.html

Lip servce from Hudge www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-kr- ... story.html

Its a further "don't blame us" piece...., to put 50% of the blame on bad luck or misfortune tells everything about what is truly wrong...

And recruitment doesn't end on the pitch...i wonder if the chairman would like to confirm or deny that he turned Motu Tony down before he went and built Hull into a top 3 side...???

Reading the title I was hoping the Jam had reformed and were playing a gig tomorrow

Time for action not words.still trust hudgell but these last few seasons have been groundhog day.you cannot make same choices/actions that don't work then repeat them and expect different outcome.since Newton and Galea left particularly Newton we've been weak defending both sides 2nd row and centre.Thornley and Minns look full of potential put them alongside 2 grizzled tough locks and we are instantly more solid in line.its not rocket science.horne donno Clarkson Larroyer are all good lads but a good big un will generally beat a good little un,especially in league

Nice way to speak about fans : "Especially by the handful of empty vessels who have done nothing constructive other than throw out gratuitous insults. My message to them is that the jobs yours any time you want it, but I'm sure you won't, as you haven't the balls to do it"

I think the majority of that blog is very good, true and honest. Couple of parts I don't agree with, needs big actions not words next year.

Seems a broadly fair and reasonable summation to me.

Injuries, poor recruitment and 'bad luck' are intertwined, of course. An experienced coach who can give us a non-awful pre-season and maybe sprinkle a bit of positivity about would be welcome. We need 3 or 4 new/extra players who are more than just shirt-fillers or kids with potential for him to have a shot at making a meaningful difference though, I fear.

Fair comments as far as I'm concerned, I don't understand people's need to abuse Neil or Rob on social media, they have admitted that they got it wrong in the past that's why they brought in Jamie Peacock.
We are undergoing major changes with Peacock's 5 year plan, it just takes a bit of time for progress to be visible, things can't change overnight.

Personally not convinced by Peacock, Surley he was involved in pre season and recruitment. Seems to have lots of other business interests and had now just accepted the England job.

At least you'd have been entertained Frankie.

This season has been a disaster & can't end soon enough. But I still trust Hudge. I remember the days before he arrived only too well. I suspect a lot of our most impatient fans can't.

He must have been involved with the signing of the lads from Leeds, but not having inner working knowledge of the club, I cannot comment or make assumptions to his level of involvement during the preseason or for any of the other recruitment.

I do however believe in the decision made by Neil and Rob to take a step away from the on field running of the club and appoint Peacock to take on this responsibility, so that they can concentrate on the business side more. In theory this should workout better for the long time future of the club, only time and hindsight will show if they recruited the right man. As for his involvement with the England set up, I think that can only be a positive for Rovers.

WTF does Remmington Mike do these days?

Come to think of it, what has he ever done?

Steals a wage for starters

He seems like a level headed chairman/CEO who says it how it is IMO

I also believe that things are magnified for you HKR fans when FC are doing well and vice versa

That's how I see it.smugness factor 10 in black n white mates makes our crud season more bleak

It doesn't matter to me how Hull are doing I'm more concerned about my own team and its predicament I must say Hulls board has got really boring since they started doing well

Nothing to do with balls though, just a lack of cash. rovers' biggest problem in recent years is that you've put mike smith in a position of influence which is why you've had a string of rubbish coaches and had your legs lifted by any agent looking to place either injury prone or bang average players somewhere at an inflated price. At least he's tried to break the cycle by appointing peacock but who knows how that will turn out. I can see peacock leaving when a better offer comes along.

As for hudge, he is a whining little get and should stop slagging off the people who faithfully support your club and reduce the amount he has to stump up each year. Classic example of little man syndrome. I bet he was bullied at school

I agree, that comment is a smokescreen. if you were sat comfortably in 6th, none of you would care that we are in top spot. It's the fact that, yet again, you're in the relegation battle that frustrates fans.

From his comments, it doesn't sound like macnamara is your new coach. Maybe wayne bennett really is coming?

Two and a half years ago I asked Remington Mike (one "M"icon_wink.gif what he was about, face to face.

He emailed me the day after to say he'd never received the emails that I'd sent.

My MP, who absolutely hates me and knows I'll never vote for him at least has the good grace to tell me to feck off every once in a while.

Hull KR chairman Neil Hudgell responds to criticism after derby defeat


1- Reality check

Over the last 10 years of Super League our average league position has been 8th place, this has been broadly matched by our support base, facilities and financial health. All things being equal we are sitting at or about our natural level for now

However, the last set of RFL benchmark reporting showed that our off field operation has just risen to around 6th in the league. Clearly we would like those two metrics to rise in tandem. Whilst we made a profit last year on the back of Wembley, we forecast a significant loss again this year, next year and the year after. The directors will continue to underwrite this, see point 9.

Me.....11th and safety in SL year 1 was a huge achievement and all that mattered for a promoted club. 7th, 4th, 7th & 7th in the 4 years that followed was in hindsight was impressive. We sacked the coach that achieved this and since then it's been 10th, 8th, 10th and whereever we finish in the bottom 4 this year. We may average 8th thanks to the Morgan years but it's 8th and falling.



2- Goldfish bowl

I'll say it again, Hull is a goldfish bowl for media scrutiny, and consequently there is an artificial pressure to over perform beyond realistic expectations. Our city rivals performing well only serves to crank up those expectations. When these are not met this leads to intense criticism fuelled by deep seated disappointment at being second best.

Me......If Hull win SL this year good luck to them being down below them isn't all that different from being down below Leeds or Wigan.


3- The unpalatable truth

Credit where it's due, Hull FC have recruited better than anyone this year. Thursday night showed passion and enthusiasm is not enough when one side plays to its potential. I believe their success is based mostly on changes made 2/3 years ago which are now bearing fruit. It is not that long ago they were feeling the pain we are currently experiencing.

Me........We are simply 2/3 years along the same path as Hull?


4- Over achieving

We want to over achieve, being at our natural level doesn't excite me. We are having to make changes now, for a better future. Step one was bringing in Jamie Peacock, he is only just over six months into his role and the changes he is making are not quick fixes, step two is appointing an experienced and respected coach.

Me..... We are having to make changes now? What changes? Everyone and his dog who has felt the slightest itch from the fear of relegation has reacted ..we haven't.



5- What's gone wrong?

We aren't where we want to be this year. Why? In my opinion, 30% was an awful pre-season, 40% is on-going injuries to a large number of players, and within that group many of our key players, 20% historic poor long term recruitment, 10% bad luck.

Me.....players win matches. So IMO it's 95% recruitmnet, 4% injuries and 1% bad luck.



6- What we need to do to correct this?

A more experienced coach who can extract more from the current playing group. Better value for money from recruitment. Continuing investment in youth. I was delighted to hear the City of Hull Academy got an 'Outstanding' grading yesterday by the way, we will bear the fruits of that in the medium to long term.

Me..........The one thing good coaches have in common is good players. Whoever the next coach is he doesn't have good players so he will probably become a bad coach.



7- Life in the Qualifiers

Being in the "middle 8s" is a huge handicap in recruitment at all levels. It is difficult to commit both ways until we can 100% guarantee our league position. The current system favours the established elite and does nothing to spread the talent or strengthen the 12 as a collective.

Me..... Neil you wanted one up one down, if you'd had your way we'd be in an even more precarious position right now.



8- No news isn't always no news!

I'm hearing a lot of criticism for the 'lack of positive news', we're not going to create news or spin for the sake of it, we're an honest club, we don't live on hype or false promises. We have an "in principle" deal agreed with a new head coach, much like player recruitment, when our league position is 100% confirmed our full plans for 2017 will become apparent.

Me......why can Hudds appoint a new coach ready to commit here & now?



9- Healthy debate welcomed

On a personal level, I am first and foremost a supporter. I am under no obligation to continue underwriting Hull KR. I am quite happy and wiling to engage and indeed welcome meaningful debate with fellow supporters. I won't though take personal abuse or have my motives questioned. Especially by the handful of empty vessels who have done nothing constructive other than throw out gratuitous insults. My message to them is that the jobs yours any time you want it, but I'm sure you won't, as you haven't the balls to do it

Me....Those abusing Neil and players like Robbie Mulhern are vermin pure & simple.


10- And finally

We need you more than ever! - We are now in the Super League Qualifiers again and in a fight for our Super League future. Now more than ever we need our support behind us, which again it was right to the bitter end on Thursday night. Let's turn up in numbers on Thursday against Leeds and show the doubters we're ready to fight for every last point to secure that extra home game in the 'middle 8'.

Me.....agreed.

I can't believe how we all think JP is the answer with his 5 year plan. What other business organisation would employ an unproven administrator with no previous experience on a +£100k contract? I just don't get it. Great player, yes. business degree, yes. Previous demonstrable experience, No.

JP has been doing the recruitment, he was involved in pre-season, and he is a massive reason the season has gone as it has. I'm not for one minute saying sack him, I would just like to hear his thoughts on what has gone wrong. After all, the coach he wanted sacking seems to be doing a reasonable job at another club.

I assume Jamie told you the details of his salary?

Stan everybody knows everybody's wage FACT

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