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| Now you've signed loads of new backs would Omari Caro be open to a new challenge at a Championship club?
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| I would think so.
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| Quote ="Cross Hills Cougar"Now you've signed loads of new backs would Omari Caro be open to a new challenge at a Championship club?'"
I think you should ask him.
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| Caro will be leaving I'm sure, much to the disgruntlement of Sandra, who is Chairgoose of the HE fan club.
It's not really worked out for him on a consistent basis. Decent one week, liability the next.
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| I'm a fan also, think he has worked hard at his faults and I would have liked to see him given another year at least.
Speed to burn and I hope the kid does well in RL.
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| He's gone.
We haven't managed him well at all, a bit of a victim of the East Stand pillock's who've never pulled on a shirt in anger.
Yes, he's been culpable for some conceded tries but I stand by my judgement that our wide defensive limitations are due to our second rowers not sliding and our centres jammining in.
Every single coach has noticed that and exploited it for the last two years.
Despite playing less games, half way through the season he was way and above our top try scorer, I haven't analysed the statistics but minutes on the pitch to points scored, he' way up there.
He's an intelligent lad, I hope he can combine what will probably be a successful career off the pitch with staying in RL, but if he's got any sense and an agent worth his money he should be looking at Union.
We've missed one here.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"He's gone.
We haven't managed him well at all, a bit of a victim of the East Stand pillock's who've never pulled on a shirt in anger.
Yes, he's been culpable for some conceded tries but I stand by my judgement that our wide defensive limitations are due to our second rowers not sliding and our centres jammining in.
Every single coach has noticed that and exploited it for the last two years.
Despite playing less games, half way through the season he was way and above our top try scorer, I haven't analysed the statistics but minutes on the pitch to points scored, he' way up there.
He's an intelligent lad, I hope he can combine what will probably be a successful career off the pitch with staying in RL, but if he's got any sense and an agent worth his money he should be looking at Union.
We've missed one here.'"
i agree with you about the excessive criticism from some quarters, but his confidence was so fragile it was scary to see. His first mistake would shatter any he might have built up over a game or two, then the whole lot came crashing down like a house of cards. a real shame because he has genuine pace, and you can't coach that.
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| for someone so fast he has the turning cycle of a bus. once Rhys Hanbury and Mason Caton Brown gad got on the outside of him they were both 10 yards past him before he'd started chasing back.
It's a shamebut I don't think we'll see the best of him
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| It's a real shame.
He needed someone to really take him under their wing and tutor him.
We as a club should be able to do that, otherwise it was pointless signing him in the first place.
I know I've championed Omari over the last couple of years and it started out as a bit of a laugh but he was dedicated.
I always think, you can train skills but you can't train attitude and I think he had it.
Omari is definitely a comitted athlete.
People who wouldn't dare pull on a shirt will now comment on this thread.
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| I agree with the goose, its a real shame, seemed to have all the potential, speed and size to make a top winger but just never saw enough improvement over his time here. Certainly scored enough tries but in our side his defensive deficiencies were too obvious. Ifhe went to a good well drilled side hhe'd probably look outstanding. I agree union would probably suit him
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"He's gone.
We haven't managed him well at all, a bit of a victim of the East Stand pillock's who've never pulled on a shirt in anger.
Yes, he's been culpable for some conceded tries but I stand by my judgement that our wide defensive limitations are due to our second rowers not sliding and our centres jammining in.
Every single coach has noticed that and exploited it for the last two years.
Despite playing less games, half way through the season he was way and above our top try scorer, I haven't analysed the statistics but minutes on the pitch to points scored, he' way up there.
He's an intelligent lad, I hope he can combine what will probably be a successful career off the pitch with staying in RL, but if he's got any sense and an agent worth his money he should be looking at Union.
We've missed one here.'"
Put the lad in a bit of space and every chance he will score you a try as his record says,but he has a basic inability to catch the ball,and seems incredibly stiff,slow to turn and change direction and gets skinned too often. As you say an intelligent lad and very articulate and maybe in a lower level would be successful,I hope so,good luck to him.
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| Has he been released?
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| Not officially,but he is out of contract,already down the pecking order, 4 new backs signed says it all.
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| He was a player I wished had succeeded but I agree with Dudley once he'd made a mistake he never seemed to recover I see him playing union myself
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"He's gone.
We haven't managed him well at all, a bit of a victim of the East Stand pillock's who've never pulled on a shirt in anger.
Yes, he's been culpable for some conceded tries but I stand by my judgement that our wide defensive limitations are due to our second rowers not sliding and our centres jammining in.
Every single coach has noticed that and exploited it for the last two years.
Despite playing less games, half way through the season he was way and above our top try scorer, I haven't analysed the statistics but minutes on the pitch to points scored, he' way up there.
He's an intelligent lad, I hope he can combine what will probably be a successful career off the pitch with staying in RL, but if he's got any sense and an agent worth his money he should be looking at Union.
We've missed one here.'"
I agree in part on the defensive lapses of the system with the inability of the team to slide across and the centre to panic and leave his position jumping out the line or moving in field, That however doesn't make up for the many fumbles when he's had to deal with grubbers the high balls dropped and getting beat by smaller wingers in the air. That thrown in with a distinct lack of bottlewhen approaching the line which was evident at Salford last year. Some critism is warranted and for me Caro has brought alot on himself. If you only had to attack we'd have a world beater but unfortunately for Caro there is more to RL then just been able to run fast, Something Caro hasn't even managed at times.
Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"It's a real shame.
People who wouldn't dare pull on a shirt will now comment on this thread.'"
I've played the greatest game so I guess I'm allowed to comment they ehhh.................What a ridiculous statement to make. People don't need to have played Rugby League to have an opinion on a player of the club they support. These forums would be alot quiter if that was the case.
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| Got to say its a pity he will not make it in super league but will people stop saying go to union we don't want any x player going their
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| If we dont land our final outside back target, I'd keep him. I do think 2-3 years at a lower level would be really good for his development.
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| Quote ="Easty"I agree in part on the defensive lapses of the system with the inability of the team to slide across and the centre to panic and leave his position jumping out the line or moving in field, That however doesn't make up for the many fumbles when he's had to deal with grubbers the high balls dropped and getting beat by smaller wingers in the air. That thrown in with a distinct lack of bottlewhen approaching the line which was evident at Salford last year. Some critism is warranted and for me Caro has brought alot on himself. If you only had to attack we'd have a world beater but unfortunately for Caro there is more to RL then just been able to run fast, Something Caro hasn't even managed at times.
I've played the greatest game so I guess I'm allowed to comment they ehhh.................What a ridiculous statement to make. People don't need to have played Rugby League to have an opinion on a player of the club they support. These forums would be alot quiter if that was the case.'"
I assume what Sandra was getting at was the ridiculous opinions he was some sort of coward after he didn't go for the line at Salford last season.
To my mind this is a criticism that can't be levelled at anyone who plays pro rugby league, or any decent level for that matter. Rather than a lack of bottle I feel it was that same lack of confidence, that made him hesitate and not take chances he maybe should have.
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| I do wonder 'what if' his hesitation @ Salford never happened (or at least wasn't on tv). Up to that point he'd been alright with plenty of promise. He made some bad errors I recall earlier on in that game but ever since the hesitation I don't think anyone forgot it and he was forever tarred with the 'coward' tag. Every error he made was always met with the same derision other players seem to escape from.
That being said, there are better wingers than Caro. He hasn't really improved in my view. The same fragile player who we all wish was as good as his physique suggests he could be. I don't even think his 'blistering pace' is still there tbh either.
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| My tablet's proving no fun to play with as far as quoting goes, but in reply to Young Master Easty:
I think Caro has been a scapegoat.
So many times I've heard unjustified criticism of him.
I don't think he can or should remain at the club (and I actually don't think he's good enough to secure a starting berth) I just think he should have been developed better.
Sandercock's remit was to bring players on and we recruited a raw talent in Caro, the fact that this has failed, I don''t think is just his fault.
As to your last point about me saying people who haven't played TGG, Mr. Dudley is partly correct, but then, would you expect more than "a ridiculous statement" from me?
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"My tablet's proving no fun to play with as far as quoting goes, but in reply to Young Master Easty:
I think Caro has been a scapegoat.
So many times I've heard unjustified criticism of him.
I don't think he can or should remain at the club (and I actually don't think he's good enough to secure a starting berth) I just think he should have been developed better.
Sandercock's remit was to bring players on and we recruited a raw talent in Caro, the fact that this has failed, I don''t think is just his fault.
As to your last point about me saying people who haven't played TGG, Mr. Dudley is partly correct, but then, would you expect more than "a ridiculous statement" from me?'"
I got a ridiculous statement today. Overdrawn again.
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| I would be very disappointed if Caro was released the kid is a try machine and scored a brilliant try against St. Helens . Wingers are not there to tackle but must have size and genuine pace which he has both in abundance, a genuine speedster.
He is still raw but was having a good season then was dropped by sandercock after scoring 8 tries for Hodgson against Salford, the latter made some bad mistakes and could of won us the game in the end but we are not knocking him.
Think Caro has had a raw deal myself.
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| I agree with raw deal, not been offered terms and that's a shame.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"He's gone.
We haven't managed him well at all, a bit of a victim of the East Stand pillock's who've never pulled on a shirt in anger.
Yes, he's been culpable for some conceded tries but I stand by my judgement that our wide defensive limitations are due to our second rowers not sliding and our centres jammining in.
Every single coach has noticed that and exploited it for the last two years.
Despite playing less games, half way through the season he was way and above our top try scorer, I haven't analysed the statistics but minutes on the pitch to points scored, he' way up there.
He's an intelligent lad, I hope he can combine what will probably be a successful career off the pitch with staying in RL, but if he's got any sense and an agent worth his money he should be looking at Union.
We've missed one here.'"
We've missed one?
No Caro is not a Rugby League player and will always have 'Caro' moments. Eden will always have 'Eden' moments, Hall will always have 'Hall' moments.
We don't need that kind of crazy. We're all stocked up.
Even rubbish opposition can afford to be inferior knowing they will be presented points from the crazy of Caro/Eden/Hall.
Before we do anything the crazy has to go. Just to give us a level playing field.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"We've missed one?
No Caro is not a Rugby League player and will always have 'Caro' moments. Eden will always have 'Eden' moments, Hall will always have 'Hall' moments.
We don't need that kind of crazy. We're all stocked up.
Even rubbish opposition can afford to be inferior knowing they will be presented points from the crazy of Caro/Eden/Hall.
Before we do anything the crazy has to go. Just to give us a level playing field.'"
His bob ness two out of three are leaving hall and supposedly Eden , that leaves a genuine speedster with a great try to game ratio. The SL stats blow your theory out of the water that he is not a RL player , he's scored 11 tries joint top scorer and averages 8.77 metres per game
Top of the tree, so rovers are loosing the two top try scorers next year !
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