Saints reported to be monitoring both for next season.

Are they off contract ?

What's the local view on them?

Possibility that Manu could return to Humberside for 2014
once his contract is up.

Thoughts.

Both gash, shouldn't be anywhere near a saints team, keep well away.

I have a feeling, that this isn't serious ... However after the Beaumont incident, I can't be sure

Bring your own through!! Leave our kids alone.

Rovers need to pay them what they are worth. No point in investing in youth and blooding them if you then let them go.

Don't be greedy, we'll take Green, you can have Cox.

In all seriousness though there will undoubtedly be interest from some bigger clubs, if you can hang on to them then that is better business than any other signing you will make this season. They are the kind of players you should be building your side around for years to come and you have to make it your priority to keep hold.

Blimy I agree with a hull fan well said sir

When they're out of contract the club don't always have much choice. If they're determined to go, there's not much to be sensibly done about it unfortunately.
They're promising young big strong forwards. I'd not be breaking the bank just because they're academy products. If we could find another Adam Walker for similar money, that'd be a win.

Edit. Manu is 34 already and looks less than the player he was at Hull, so that doesn't strike me as a great place to be starting recruitment.

Cox and his agent have already given Saints there word that he will join Saints unless KR or any other club stump up alot of Cash. I'm now hearing that Saints do infact want Green to replace Laffranchi.

Manu and Laffranchi, Foster and Hand out

Green and Cox in, i've never seen them play but they must be good if saints want new blood rather than giving Greenwood and Thompson more game time.

They have one thing Greenwood and Thompson don't and that is 1st team experience.

Green has 15 first grade games according to the SL website, Greenwood has 17, Thompson has 8 - only Cox has a meaningful number of games (42, which puts him roughly a season ahead) but from what I've read, hes the one with the most question marks! Personally I think Richards at Saints has the biggest potential out of the lot of them, but thats another matter for another day.

Regardless of how they compare to the saints youngsters, id rather hkr got the benefit of their blooding their own youngsters. Players transfer every year, so Cox would be one thing, but both would be a blow ... We could send you back Beaumont as comp if you like

I think we will pass on your part ex offer. Green is a must keep, Cox I could live with. Maybe he has a place at uni like Jon Wilkin had when he left us

I will get a proper radge on if this happens.

Despite playing less super league games, Green looks to be further on in his development as a regular first team player. However he is a couple of years older than Cox which many forget. Its taken Green a few seasons to get to this point, it would be a massive kick in the balls to lose him as we are just beginning to reap the rewards of bringing him through. The kind of player we should build our pack round for years to come, all the attributes for it and a good offload which is something we dont have an abundance of IMO, Walker aside. Regarding Cox, he is a good squad player for us but hasnt really kicked on and nailed down a regular first team place, our recruitment pre season with lots of forwards hasnt helped his case. However, I think he will become a very good starting super league player although it may be next season, you can never tell how quickly players will develop. One thing I would query is whether he will end up being a prop rather than a second rower as he is currently, due to his size predominantly. Time will tell, however I would really want to keep him too because tbh its just plain annoying to lose someone brought through the academy as soon as they have a good season in the first team. Especially when some people would use it as a stick to beat us with the 'HKA dont have any homegrown players' tag line that gets banded about.

If it does come down to cold hard cash, it is their job after all, I feel we as a club need to look at what we're paying for the likes of Costigan compared to our home grown products, and what value for money they offer, I know who I'd want to retain.

Don't see it as an either or.

You need 5 good props still room for locals such as Thompson. You are only an injury or an NRL approach
away from losing Warmlsey Amor or Mose.

Greenwood is a second row and is a season or so away. Same goes for Sia and Wilkin regarding replacements.

If anything it is good succession planning as long as you keep Greenwood and Thompson and greg richards
and move on the nearly men like Foster and Clough.

I would prefer Cox and/or Green to another LasFranky or Perry anyday.

Watched the KR Cas game again. Green looks good. Cox is an enigma.

I wondered how long until the Wilkin to hull Kr rumours popped up again, he's out of contract next year

How on earth can that post be considered a wilkin to hull kr rumour???

It wasn't, he simply reminded me that Jon Wilkin is out of contract next year, and Wilkin to hkr always seems to come up (or did back in the good old days!

) it'll be interesting to see if it resurfaces this time ...

I doubt it does tbh. Not solely. It looks like Saints are trying to kick on and get back to winning trophies. Your chances of international caps and/or a shot at the NRL are significantly boosted, if things go well. And if they don't so much, you've still got 'St Helens' on your CV, so another SL gig is pretty much a gimme. Though I fear Richard Beaumont will test that thesis severely.
We compete in SL, but without (even) more backing it is very hard to make that seemingly small step to realistically compete for SL. As a club, at least - for individual players it can be easier and more than tempting, I'm sure.

It'll be interesting to see how fans and the club react if this did happen. The international game is divided in to games we don't win or that nobody really cares about. The stick, such as it was, of licensing has gone. You don't get much/any transfer fee. Unless you really, really get off on being patted on the head like Cas, then sadly all the incentives would seem to be to do the bare minimum if you're outside the current top few clubs.

Surely the club would of learnt from taylor and Beaumont and should be looking to build the team around players like Cox and green along with the walker brothers and Josh Hodgson and hopefully pick up afew along the way like caro and tie these lads into contracts like they have with josh

I'm sure they want to. I'm certain they wanted to keep Taylor. Easier said, though. If they don't want to be tied, what can you do?

Talking to some friends yesterday who both knows Coxy very well, they said that that he had told them that knows nothing about the supposed interest from St Helens.
So, someone's either been Economical with the truth or the agent is making mischief, the latter wouldn't surprise me.

To be fair he is hardly likely to say yes I've been tapped up by a major super league club in advance of the anti tampering date !!!

Be interesting to see if he resigns for KR if an extension is tabled or decides to "consider his options".

I would say there has to be some truth in it, bearing in mind Rob Crosslands post on the other forum, about hyperthetical offers etc.