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| It does not auger well for a possible new Sky deal when I read that the game did not register in the top 100 sporting events on satellite TV. The SL show piece Grand final attracted an audience of 450000 and the 4 nations final only 371000! Not only that neither the Challenge cup final or the 4 nations final made it into the top 100 sports programmes on terrestial TV. Much as I love the game I fear that at best there will be no more money on the table when the rights are renewed with the worst case scenario being a decrease.
Thoughts anyone?
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| How many of the top 100 were Association football?
I'm surprised that CC didn't make the terrestrial top 100 - are there even 100 live sporting events on terrestrial now? Wimbledon, the 6 nations, FA Cup, The odd interenational football match, Champions league, erm... snooker, darts...
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"How many of the top 100 were Association football?
I'm surprised that CC didn't make the terrestrial top 100 - are there even 100 live sporting events on terrestrial now? Wimbledon, the 6 nations, FA Cup, The odd interenational football match, Champions league, erm... snooker, darts...'"
I would like to see the figure minus the Football games TBH to see how we compare to the 'lesser' sports.
That said it doesnt bode well for when the Rugby League sit down to negotiate the next contracts does it? That said I always thought the Challenge Cup was one of the higher terrestrial sport viewing figures of the year!
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| The guy being interviewd also said the the BBC's coverage of live games was 20% of the total Rugby League viewership for the entire year despite only showing a handfull of games !.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"It does not auger well for a possible new Sky deal when I read that the game did not register in the top 100 sporting events on satellite TV. The SL show piece Grand final attracted an audience of 450000 and the 4 nations final only 371000! Not only that neither the Challenge cup final or the 4 nations final made it into the top 100 sports programmes on terrestial TV. Much as I love the game I fear that at best there will be no more money on the table when the rights are renewed with the worst case scenario being a decrease.
Thoughts anyone?'"
maybe this is the reason why rovers want to reduce SL so they get a bigger or same slice of the sky money ,i wonder if they would have said that 4 years ago ,and they should to be careful they could be one of the teams axed
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| As far as Sky goes the GF was the 58th most popular not including football.The 4 nations was 92nd! There is so little live football on terrestial so it would look worse!
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"maybe this is the reason why rovers want to reduce SL so they get a bigger or same slice of the sky money ,i wonder if they would have said that 4 years ago ,and they should to be careful they could be one of the teams axed'"
there were only 12 teams in SL 4 years ago and we still got in. New to the game are you?
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| Quote ="barham red"there were only 12 teams in SL 4 years ago and we still got in. New to the game are you?'"
yer you did get in, but that was by promotion ,unfortunatly its now based on the state of your clubs infrastructure and financial postion whether you stay in, i dont agree with that but its fact ,to cut the SL back to 12 teams may gain all the clubs left more TV money, but somone will be left disappointed and that somone will be a club, with a grade c licence ,with HKR been one of those clubs id have thought they would want to keep SL at 14 teams ,but i guess needs must , i myself would like to see 16 teams in SL i hate playing teams more than just home and away.The NRL have at least 16 so i dont see a problem with too many games tbh ,i would drop celtic and bring in Halifax ,Widnes and Leigh ,with the exstra games it would bring in more gate money and with those teams a healthy away following ,making up for lost TV money
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| Quote ="tiger2000"The guy being interviewd also said the the BBC's coverage of live games was 20% of the total Rugby League viewership for the entire year despite only showing a handfull of games !.'"
I dont understand this.
Sky Sports Rugby averages between 100k and 350k, which is good going (and the 2nd best on sky with domestic sports). So two games a week is 40 games, and say everyone averaged 200k thats still 8million views. Of which 20% is 1.6million, which would defo break the top 100. And thats with less then average attendance and only 40 games for my maths sake.
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"maybe this is the reason why rovers want to reduce SL so they get a bigger or same slice of the sky money ,i wonder if they would have said that 4 years ago ,and they should to be careful they could be one of the teams axed'"
Sorry, I thought it was the [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jan/25/super-league-may-cut-to-12-teamsRFL[/url who wanted to reduce S/L..... oh! and notice no mention of Rovers being in danger bud. ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Sorry, I thought it was the [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jan/25/super-league-may-cut-to-12-teamsRFL[/url who wanted to reduce S/L..... oh! and notice no mention of Rovers being in danger bud.
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If you read the report it says its the SL clubs may vote to cut the comp to 12 teams not the RL ,and from what Rovers said at there fans forum they are one of the teams who want the cut ,the RL will decide who gets the chop and who comes up , based on what i said above Bud
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"If you read the report it says its the SL clubs may vote to cut the comp to 12 teams not the RL ,and from [uwhat Rovers said at there fans forum[/u they are one of the teams who want the cut ,the RL will decide who gets the chop and who comes up , based on what i said above Bud
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That was Newton and Morgan, presenting the POV of a player and a coach, not club's position. Tbf, I'd quite like to work 4 days a week instead of 5, especially if nobody is mentioning a pro-rata pay cut. The quality of my work would increase too, I'm sure, so I understand where they are coming from.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"That was Newton and Morgan, presenting the POV of a player and a coach, not club's position. Tbf, I'd quite like to work 4 days a week instead of 5, especially if nobody is mentioning a pro-rata pay cut. The quality of my work would increase too, I'm sure, so I understand where they are coming from.'"
Sorry, I'm not having that half baked excuse. If Clint Newton said it at the forum, it must the the official position of the club.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo" The SL show piece Grand final attracted an audience of 450000 and the 4 nations final only 371000! '"
Well this thread has baffled me. 450,000 are very good viewing figures.
Superleague gets around 100,000 per match, some matches getting over 250,000. Football matches get around 300,000 to 700,000.
I picked a week at random for Sky Sports 2. Here are the results;
Figures are in thousands. So SL got 150,000 and 129,000 that week respectively while RU got 116,000.
1. LIVE ROTTERDAM TENNIS (Sun 13:00) 175
2 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (Fri 19:30) 150
3 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (Sat 19:30) 129
4 LIVE PREMIERSHIP RUGBY UNION (Sun 16:30) 116
These are the results over on Sky Sports 1 the same day
1 INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL LIVE (Tue 19:30) 542
2 LIVE FOOTBALL LEAGUE (Mon 19:30) 413
Whats so bad about those viewing figures? I think a sport like Rugby League beating Rugby Union, a much more widely known sport around the UK and Ireland is frankly a fantasic achivement.
These were the figures the week after
1 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (Fri 19:33) 262
2 LIVE FOOTBALL (Tue 19:30) 156
3 LIVE PREMIERSHIP RUGBY UNION (Sat 14:30) 140
4 LIVE SCOTTISH CUP FOOTBALL (Wed 19:30) 126
5 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS (Thu 19:00) 125
6 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (Sat 17:57) 114
7 LIVE A1 GRAND PRIX (Sun 11:31) 67
8 EUROPEAN TOUR GOLF (Sun 14:30) 56
9 RUGBY UNION (Sat 20:00) 52
10 BIG LEAGUE WEEKEND 1 (Fri 22:03)
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| i wouldn't read too much into these 'figures'.football,cricket will always get bigger viewers,especially when we are up against the premier league,and the ashes series etc.the viewing figures are excellent,and are on a par with union,which is meant to be a national sport compared to our 'm62' game!sky will have no reservations at all when it comes to renewing their contract with the rfl.
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