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| Pentalty try for Fox changing his line and pushing there winger out of play?
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| Quote ="very red robin"Pentalty try for Fox changing his line and pushing there winger out of play?
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| Cities on a Saturday can be such interesting places... full of people, full of cars, full of the hustle and bustle of life. And Leicester is no exception. I was born there so I can speak from personal experience. But something was different last Saturday. There were more people, more cars and much more hustle and bustle than I had ever seen or heard before.
I'd gone into town with my mates that Saturday - as you do! We caught the same No. 149 bus from Oadby - that's a small town south of Leicester. Nothing unusual in that. The journey was as predictable as ever - I'm so used to it. I can't even remember getting on the bus; but I can certainly remember getting off!
By the time we did get off we were all pretty fed up. We were also as hot as the proverbial Sahara and as bothered as a bumble bee trapped in a beer bottle. The usual breezy fifteen minutes' journey had taken us over an hour. We hadn't noticed to start with. You know what it's like when you're chatting about this and that. And 'Big Brother' had been pretty crazy last night, so that had kept us more than a little occupied. Time flies by. But you also probably know what it's like on a hot, packed bus crawling through the kind of traffic that the word 'jam' just doesn't adequately describe - thick porridge more like! Pretty awful once you realise what's happening. And what was happening? Not a lot.
Looking out onto the London Road to see what was going on - that was after wiping away mist as thick as a cotton sheet from the steamed up window - it looked as if someone had said to the whole of Leicestershire, 'Get yourself to Leicester today; there's a million quid going free under the Clock Tower!' The road looked more like the packed car park at an N.E.C. pop concert than a city road; and as for the numbers of people...
Anyway to cut a long story short, we did eventually climb - well tumble - off the bus. We'd have headed straight for our usual glass of cool Coke at Brucciani's but we were more interested to know what was going on. The crowds were incredible. It was as if every nation, every age, everybody was there! The noise hit us next - shouting, screaming, oohing and aahing. Then something else struck me. Was it my imagination, or was it darker than usual? There was something about the quality of the light that made us all stop and look at each other. We didn't have to ask the question, for we knew we all had the same thought in our minds. There was something odd about the sky... You know that feeling you have just before a really bad thunder storm, when the sky turns inky and the air feels oddly cool and fresh? Well the sky had certainly turned inky, but there was no freshness. It was weird.
It was then that we noticed that what we had thought was a grey cloud was moving and swirling a whole lot more quickly than any cloud we had ever seen move before. We suddenly realised that it wasn't a cloud. It was smoke: thick, dark, haunting smoke. There was a fire somewhere - surely a huge fire. And everyone was pushing and shoving to get a closer look at what was going on.
As we managed to push further through the crowd, the air began to feel electric. Ahead, the piercing 'flick', 'flick', 'flick' of blue lights were visible all around and we felt that strange mixture of wanting to see and yet being too frightened to look. And there it was - the new shopping centre. Ablaze. The smoke was like a wall of solid black, and the action unbelievable - fire-fighters, hoses, water jets and a crowd of faces looking on just like they would at a fireworks display, just looking and wondering.
If you saw the news last night, you'll know the rest. Not a lot to tell you, though, if you missed it. Unbelievably, no one was badly hurt and the fire-fighters had it all under control pretty quickly. By the time I got that Coke, I can tell you it was cooler and longer than any Coke I'd had before or I've had since. But we didn't get it from Brucciani's. Their new branch wasn't selling Coke any longer... and no chance of any ice!
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| Couldn't see it from the well but Briscoe was close by in the in goal area so I don't how it could've been given... ?
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| Quote ="suttonrobin"Cities on a Saturday can be such interesting places... full of people, full of cars, full of the hustle and bustle of life. And Leicester is no exception. I was born there so I can speak from personal experience. But something was different last Saturday. There were more people, more cars and much more hustle and bustle than I had ever seen or heard before.
I'd gone into town with my mates that Saturday - as you do! We caught the same No. 149 bus from Oadby - that's a small town south of Leicester. Nothing unusual in that. The journey was as predictable as ever - I'm so used to it. I can't even remember getting on the bus; but I can certainly remember getting off!
By the time we did get off we were all pretty fed up. We were also as hot as the proverbial Sahara and as bothered as a bumble bee trapped in a beer bottle. The usual breezy fifteen minutes' journey had taken us over an hour. We hadn't noticed to start with. You know what it's like when you're chatting about this and that. And 'Big Brother' had been pretty crazy last night, so that had kept us more than a little occupied. Time flies by. But you also probably know what it's like on a hot, packed bus crawling through the kind of traffic that the word 'jam' just doesn't adequately describe - thick porridge more like! Pretty awful once you realise what's happening. And what was happening? Not a lot.
Looking out onto the London Road to see what was going on - that was after wiping away mist as thick as a cotton sheet from the steamed up window - it looked as if someone had said to the whole of Leicestershire, 'Get yourself to Leicester today; there's a million quid going free under the Clock Tower!' The road looked more like the packed car park at an N.E.C. pop concert than a city road; and as for the numbers of people...
Anyway to cut a long story short, we did eventually climb - well tumble - off the bus. We'd have headed straight for our usual glass of cool Coke at Brucciani's but we were more interested to know what was going on. The crowds were incredible. It was as if every nation, every age, everybody was there! The noise hit us next - shouting, screaming, oohing and aahing. Then something else struck me. Was it my imagination, or was it darker than usual? There was something about the quality of the light that made us all stop and look at each other. We didn't have to ask the question, for we knew we all had the same thought in our minds. There was something odd about the sky... You know that feeling you have just before a really bad thunder storm, when the sky turns inky and the air feels oddly cool and fresh? Well the sky had certainly turned inky, but there was no freshness. It was weird.
It was then that we noticed that what we had thought was a grey cloud was moving and swirling a whole lot more quickly than any cloud we had ever seen move before. We suddenly realised that it wasn't a cloud. It was smoke: thick, dark, haunting smoke. There was a fire somewhere - surely a huge fire. And everyone was pushing and shoving to get a closer look at what was going on.
As we managed to push further through the crowd, the air began to feel electric. Ahead, the piercing 'flick', 'flick', 'flick' of blue lights were visible all around and we felt that strange mixture of wanting to see and yet being too frightened to look. And there it was - the new shopping centre. Ablaze. The smoke was like a wall of solid black, and the action unbelievable - fire-fighters, hoses, water jets and a crowd of faces looking on just like they would at a fireworks display, just looking and wondering.
If you saw the news last night, you'll know the rest. Not a lot to tell you, though, if you missed it. Unbelievably, no one was badly hurt and the fire-fighters had it all under control pretty quickly. By the time I got that Coke, I can tell you it was cooler and longer than any Coke I'd had before or I've had since. But we didn't get it from Brucciani's. Their new branch wasn't selling Coke any longer... and no chance of any ice!'"
are you James Rule?
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| Quote ="rovers r red"are you James Rule?'"
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| no u can run shoulder to shoulder
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"no u can run shoulder to shoulder'"
The referee did give a penalty so the issue isn't whether there was an offence or not.
The issue is whether the Castleford player would have scored if the offence had not happened.
A penalty try can be awarded if in the opinion of the referee a try would have been scored.
From the Roger Millward stand it did look like a penalty try was a distinct possibility.
The East Standers would have had a much closer view albeit for some of them through one eye. It will be interesting to see a video of the incident.
Even so the only opinion that counts is the referee's. He gave it our way. End of.
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| From where I saw it, although I lost sight of the last part of the move, it looked to me that Fox used his shoulder, which I thought was ok. If he pushed or tripped him after I lost sight of it all, then no, penalty, and if he could get to the ball, then penalty try.
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| From the east stand i was on the 30m near the north stand, it looked a penalty but i could not say 100% that he would have scored a try because of the other factors such as briscoe. Prob the correct call by the reff
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| Shoulder to shoulder is allowed, and that's what he did
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| Quote ="tomhkr"From the east stand i was on the 30m near the north stand, it looked a penalty but i could not say 100% that he would have scored a try because of the other factors such as briscoe. Prob the correct call by the reff'"
I think hewer wasn't going to give anything as he was moving to give a drop out, only after talking to the boy linesman did he give a penalty, which I think was the correct decision as you could not say with certainty that dixon would have got there first and fox changed his line to push dixon of the pitch.
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| I was in the well right on the 20m line, If there had been a video ref it would have been a penalty to Rovers, everyone of the Cas players on the East side were infront of the kicker, everone around me called for it, Should imagine if the recording of the incident is a wide enough angle it will prove this, for what its worth, when he never gave the offside I thought he was going to award a penalty try, especially after consulting with the linesman.
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| I thought Penalty Try at the time i must admit.
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| i going to say yes other refs might of give it that was more of a penalty try then the one wakefield got against us
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| Quote ="His Bobness"The referee did give a penalty so the issue isn't whether there was an offence or not.
The issue is whether the Castleford player would have scored if the offence had not happened.
A penalty try can be awarded if in the opinion of the referee a try would have been scored.
From the Roger Millward stand it did look like a penalty try was a distinct possibility.
The East Standers would have had a much closer view albeit for some of them through one eye. It will be interesting to see a video of the incident.
Even so the only opinion that counts is the referee's. He gave it our way. End of.'"
I think the ref got it wrong, it should have been a 20m re-start.
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| with regards to the "shoulder to shoulder" yes you can, but not when you change the line your running in to take him off the ball. I thought he was going to give a penalty try at the time, but i was on the half way line right at the top in east stand so couldnt see it as much as some of you... didnt even realise Superman was anywere near the play.
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| put it this way, if thaler was reffing, nailed on ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| yes defo penalty try foxy changed hid direction to interfere with the cas player
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| ....but had he not done that could you be certain the Cas player would have scored? I was close to the action and I would not have judged it to be a penalty try.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"....but had he not done that could you be certain the Cas player would have scored? I was close to the action and I would not have judged it to be a penalty try.'"
Unless it was the other way around
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| Admittedly my red and white tinted glasses were firmly in place, but nonetheless, the player never had the ball in hand so it's difficult to be certain he would have scored.
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