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| The whole obstruction thing is confusing me now. To my mind there are 2 forms of obstruction. 1 where a player clearly hides behind his own player to prevent a tackle....and then there is the one which is causing all the problems. The whole idea of a dummy runner is to confuse the defenders and get them to tackle the wrong player. So now what is happening is defenders are intentionally running at dummy runners to force the penalty. So to my mind this problem is now past the point of an easy fix and someone somewhere is going to have to make a decision, as this can't go on as it is.
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| I also agree that the only person who should be able to speak to the ref is the captain, and the pressure we are seeing players giving refs should be 10 mins in the bin every time order would soon be restored
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| we can slag the official's off as much as we like but they didn't leave Josh Hodgson with a 1 on1 tackle with big Eorl on his own 10 metre line that he missed. They also didn't leave Burns with a 1 on1 with Larne Patrick 10 yards out that he missed too. No that was us. if you can't get bodies into the tackle against an on rushing Crabtree that close to your line then you will concede.
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| Quote ="barham red"1, what progress has been made? I'm not seeing any?
2, if others are progressing better than us, why are they and why aren't we?
3, roby and Thaler getting off on penalising us, really, does he go slightly soft when he unfairly penalises others?
The main decisions against us where given by the vr's if anything Thaler unfairly penalised hudds more last night barring a couple of forward passes.
4, roby got a tight call wrong, it happens get over it, I'm sick of listening to half wits in the east stand questioning every call, 90% are right just the fans either don't know the rules or don't care.
I'm not saying officiating isn't crap, it is, it's just not all the world is against us claptrap that is getting trotted out on here and in the stands.
As I've said before the vr system will kill the game if it carries on, but the way our fans are going they'll kill our club long before that. The days of the red army chants intimidating teams and the wall of noise has been replaced by the wall of excuse filled bile that will drive me and a lot like me away eventually.'"
3 of us we're actually saying how the Craven Park crowd has changed, when you 1st got into SL it was a scary place to come with a packed vociferous East Stand making so much noise - for the team and making it such an intimidating place to go, and it really was you couldn't hear yourself think in the past, compare that to now where its thousands of voices just constantly booing or screeching for a penalty, no ear splitting choruses of 'red red robin', no intimidating Hull Kr chants, just boos and wails, why did the crowd stop doing what made it a hell of a place to come to into what was almost an embarrassment at times this week ?
It's a shame really cos although it was intimidating it was also spine tingling at times and made supporters like us very envious of your lot !!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"3 of us we're actually saying how the Craven Park crowd has changed, when you 1st got into SL it was a scary place to come with a packed vociferous East Stand making so much noise - for the team and making it such an intimidating place to go, and it really was you couldn't hear yourself think in the past, compare that to now where its thousands of voices just constantly booing or screeching for a penalty, no ear splitting choruses of 'red red robin', no intimidating Hull Kr chants, just boos and wails, why did the crowd stop doing what made it a hell of a place to come to into what was almost an embarrassment at times this week ?
It's a shame really cos although it was intimidating it was also spine tingling at times and made supporters like us very envious of your lot !!'"
It changed during the last season of Morgan's reign.
Gone was the atmosphere fuelled by a decade in the lower leagues and entered the attitude that we should be in the top 4 all the time. Sections turned on Morgan and some of the players and its deteriorated since. Now a large section sound like a typical Hull crowd at any sporting event, moaning and turning on their own, demanding the coach be sacked after every defeat.
Yes the constant braying at officials is embarrassing but to cite that as the reason for the poor atmosphere is disingenuous.
There were fans thrown out after the game for trying to attack the officials near the tunnel Thursday. This may explain the chairman's statement after as it is out of hand now.
This doesn't change the fact that the Sharp gang aren't up to the job and are a spiteful petty incompetent lot made even more Crystal clear by the non sensical video ref decisions. Video refs should be done away with. Useless time wasting concept.
Blaming coaches for issues in the game is not going to address anything and naive. The officials can't keep up with the pace of changes in the game. But if there fundamentally incompetent it doesn't matter what you change.
Roby on Thursday tried to influence the game against Rovers every time he could. As he he did at Cas. Spiteful pathetic little turd who isn't fit to do his job.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"It changed during the last season of Morgan's reign.
Gone was the atmosphere fuelled by a decade in the lower leagues and entered the attitude that we should be in the top 4 all the time. Sections turned on Morgan and some of the players and its deteriorated since. Now a large section sound like a typical Hull crowd at any sporting event, moaning and turning on their own, demanding the coach be sacked after every defeat.
Yes the constant braying at officials is embarrassing but to cite that as the reason for the poor atmosphere is disingenuous.
There were fans thrown out after the game for trying to attack the officials near the tunnel Thursday. This may explain the chairman's statement after as it is out of hand now.
This doesn't change the fact that the Sharp gang aren't up to the job and are a spiteful petty incompetent lot made even more Crystal clear by the non sensical video ref decisions. Video refs should be done away with. Useless time wasting concept.
Blaming coaches for issues in the game is not going to address anything and naive. The officials can't keep up with the pace of changes in the game. But if there fundamentally incompetent it doesn't matter what you change.
Roby on Thursday tried to influence the game against Rovers every time he could. As he he did at Cas. Spiteful pathetic little turd who isn't fit to do his job.'"
Were you one of those thrown out for trying to attack the spiteful pathetic little turd?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Were you one of those thrown out for trying to attack the spiteful pathetic little turd?'"
Why do you keep coming on here and asking stupid questions?
Pr1ck.
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| You really do have some fukwits following your club, don't you
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You really do have some fukwits following your club, don't you'"
None bigger than you.
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| Mods can you get rid of this pair of children, whose sole purpose seems to be who can come out with the biggest insult to the other.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Mods can you get rid of this pair of children, whose sole purpose seems to be who can come out with the biggest insult to the other.'"
Amen.
Both of them.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Amen.
Both of them.'"
Got to agree I thought it was playtime at school
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| Keep me out of this mate, I'm talking about idiots trying to attack the ref
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| A thousand posts to late to be pleading your innocence in this matter Jake
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"A thousand posts to late to be pleading your innocence in this matter Jake'"
I said I'd ignore him/her and I am. The fact he/she is obsessed by me isn't my fault
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I said I'd ignore him/her and I am. The fact he/she is obsessed by me isn't my fault'"
The fact that you go fishing for a wind up with every post on every forum you're on has nothing to do with it then.
It maybe best for all if he was banned. We may have a proper forum again. That or just use bog roll to smear his posts off every time it posts or the helpful ignore option.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"The fact that you go fishing for a wind up with every post on every forum you're on has nothing to do with it then.
It maybe best for all if he was banned. We may have a proper forum again. That or just use bog roll to smear his posts off every time it posts or the helpful ignore option.'"
I agree, ban him and we can get back to some proper debate.
As for me, you'll find I do have the odd humerous post but overall my posts are sensible and rugby related
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| I don't mind you myself Jake its just your spat with roversmad got out of hand I was browsing through the wire or saints board the other week and you were both at it on there
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I don't mind you myself Jake'"
Don't say that, Burton's Foreskin will think you are blowing him.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Don't say that, Burton's Foreskin will think you are blowing him.'"
Don't say that, you'll get flaky jakey excited at the thought.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I don't mind you myself Jake its just your spat with roversmad got out of hand I was browsing through the wire or saints board the other week and you were both at it on there'"
Couldn't agree more he/she's fixated with me, following me about and posting wherever I do. Thankfully he/she's banned from the Hull board or it would be carnage. As I said, I couldn't care less about him/her and will continue to ignore him/her.
I do like a bit of banter but try to keep it light hearted and certainly don;t go out to blatantly troll I don't think. Problem is if you ban every opposition fan the board just gets stale
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Couldn't agree more he/she's fixated with me, following me about and posting wherever I do. Thankfully he/she's banned from the Hull board or it would be carnage. As I said, I couldn't care less about him/her and will continue to ignore him/her.
I do like a bit of banter but try to keep it light hearted and certainly don;t go out to blatantly troll I don't think. Problem is if you ban every opposition fan the board just gets stale'"
1-I'm not banned from the Dull board. I don't even go there.
2-I am not fixated about you in the slightest, I just think you are a simpleton.
3-You may be ignoring me but, still seem to be mentioning me to everyone else. (Perhaps you have the fixation?).
4-How the f*** can you "follow" someone around on an internet forum?
5-You clearly are not right in the head.
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| If you guys want to sign up, the link is
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| My application was rejected for being deluded following the psychometric test.
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