Surely not. Not Lee Smith of all players.

The whole on report thing should be scraped, you can't have a situation where a game doesn't have a big screen for a crucial decision, yet a player from that game can be banned following video referral

Wouldnt work really, especially for red cards.

Terry Newton breaks sean longs face. Red card 2 match ban
Someone gets a red card for punching someone. No damage done. Red Card 2 match ban.

One is severe and warrants a harsher punishment than the other

It wouldn't happen because half the Leeds team would be out for half the season.

My theory on this is
that if all the punishment is done off the field all hush hush because the RFL know that we are (whether we like it or not) a minority sport it doesn't get reported in the papers.
That way when people watch it on TV (neutrals and casual watchers) it looks like a well behaved sport were everyone respects the ref and no one breaks the rules.

It makes our sport look better in the moment, whether it is true in the long run is another discussion.

Leon Pryce got a yellow card on Friday for a professional foul. Do you think this is worth a 1 match ban?

its called a general discussion for all fans not just of one team hence the reason i posted links to every team in sl.

and how else could i get other teams fans to comment then "shout from the hills" ,not very workable is it.

yes ,he is a professional player and should know the rules of the game

1 match ban for a yellow card is harsh imo.

Say if a player gets pulled up for holding down twise in a row gets yellow carded= 1 match ban. bit harsh i think.

again they are supposed to be professional players and know the rules, and if i`m not mistaken holding down comes under a professional foul catergory, as they are attempting to slow down the play the ball

No.

IMO bans should only be handed out for Serious violent play, such as Hightackles, Elbows, gouging, chicken wing, late hits to the head and grapples etc.

if there is a scrap and a few punches are thrown then big deal, its a mans game, so lets keep it that way

The idea of the yellow card is to punish certain types of misdemeanor. To then give a player a ban is to punish the original incident twice. So, no, I don't agree with the OP's first post.

However, to discourage persistent offenders, I would support a points accrual system. Score enough and you get an automatic 1 match ban.

Don't the Australians operate a points system as far as disciplinary goes?

Something along those lines would work here. Different offences carry different points penalties. As your points add up so does the likelyhood of a ban. When a player reaches 100 points he receives an automatic 1 match. 200 points - two matches, 300 - three matches etc.

Over several games player A could be hit with 25 points for backchat, 50 points for a professional foul and then another 50 points for a professional foul. He is now on 125 points and receives an automatic one game and is only 75 points away from his next ban which would be 2 games.

Player B deliberately targets the opposition scrum half with a late elbow to the jaw. The judiciary hand out a 350 point penalty meaning player B receives a 6 game ban (1 [ifor the first 100 [/i+ 2 [ifor the second[/i + 3 [ifor the third[/i) and is only 50 points away from his next (4 game) ban.

Could even extend the system to a team level too. If/when team A make it to 2,000 points (for example) they could be deducted 1 league point, and then a further point for each 100 over the 2,000 as well as the individual player penalties.

The only difficult part would be consistency from the judiciary!

our danny brough wouldn't go down well with this

Leon Pryce getting 10 minutes for a professional foul, or any player getting a sin binning for persistent offsides etc, is a fair punishment.

But getting a 1 match ban for these offences is completely ridiculous.

Saying they are pros and should know the rules is meaningless. Pros know the rules of offside, high tackles etc but still commit offences because these are unavoidable in a fast paced game like RL.

I think a one match ban for a player who punches another to the ground and then repeatedly issues threats on live television and after being spoken to by the referee is eminently adequate and furthermore does nothing to put our game in a bad light.

Well done RFL and keep up the good work Keith.

If offenses were punnished correctly EVERY TIME whoever the offending player was and whoever he plays for discipline would improve automatically in my opinion. Unfortunately over the years this has not happened and referees have been given more and more ways to cop out of giving decisions. Years ago a spear tackle or dangerous tackle was an instant sending off - now we're lucky if they are even given. The sin bin was originally introduced to punnish professional fouls or technical offenses. Referees then started using it for foul play. Now its the on report system.

I don't have a problem with on report being used when something happens in back play but all too often it is a cop out. If the ref sees it - deal with it and do what you are paid to do.

With regards to the bans. Offenses vary too much in my opinion. I suppose the football system where it is an automatic one match which can be increased depending on the severity would be a possibilty but only if it is applied equally.

The ban for sin bins would be harsh. A points accrual system would be a possibility but can be abused as already mentioned. For example, a team already in the play offs has a player one card away from a ban with one or two games to play. The player purposefully gets a yellow card so he is banned for the game that does not matter as opposed to the play offs. It could work but would need to be monitored carefully.

Why not implement the BONUS point ? The championship leagues don't want it.

Completely disagree.

RL is a man’s game and that sort of behaviour is inevitable. I for one cannot wait to see what will happen the next time they meet and I am sure I am not alone (mind you I bet Jon Wilkin aint looking forward to it!!)

The NRL virtually promotes itself on the fact that it is totally uncompromising nature. The build up to games is full of highlights of previous “incidents”. IMO this only adds to the spectacle.

Take SOO as another example the game is based on the whole Mate against Mate thing.

The scraps in these games all add spice and the Aussies lap it up.

You cant beat a bit of BIFF!




Ps i do agree with a one match ban, but purely because it was right at the end of the game and saints gained nothing by his yellow card

no

It`s not the current system that`s wrong, just the weak interpretation by the Disciplinary Review panel, the NRL come down a lot harder, i.e. Senior 1 match ban for punching, the NRL usually dish out 3 match bans for this offence. Also, if Players appeal and lose, the ban is automatically increased. Their system doesn`t seem to favour the `big` clubs either.

I think we should have

Penalty for foul play (not technical offences like offside, ball steal etc) gets you 1 point, Sin Bin gets you 2 points, and Sending off 6pts.

When a player tots up 12 points he gets a 1 match ban, 18 points another match ban, 24 points another match ban. If you go over 28 points you get a 2 match ban then your slate is wiped clean.

Thats inconsistent though. You don't want technical offences taken into consideration, but a sin binning gets you 2 points. What happens when you get sin binned for a technical offence?

I think the RFL should change the rules on when a ref can put a player on report. In my opinion if a player commits a foul the options available to the ref should be the following:
1. Penalty to the opposition.
2. Penalty to the opposition and yellow card for the offender.
3. Penalty to the opposition and red card for the offender.
4. Penalty to the opposition, red card for the offender, and incident on report (because it was particularly malicious / caused injury / brought the game into disrepute etc).

How about...

Tech. Infringement = 10 yards
Penalty = 2 points and 10 yards to the opposition
Repeat both of the above as and when required . If the ball crosses the defence try line the try is awarded .
Yellow card = 6 points . Get as many as you like in a match , you giving the opposition 6 points every time . I am certain the offender's teammates and coach will remove persistant offenders from the field of play .
Red =10 points and 1 match .

Problem with any system is that it is open to errors , abuse , and (dare i say it) bias .