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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"
You are correct..and that is where the problem lies if we are to attempt to try and address/rid this kind of thing from the sport.'"
Perhaps if precedents had been set in the past by clubs when players had been convicted of violence, we might have a system in place to deal with it, instead we have this 'debate' everytime it happens.
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| Ben has been given his penalty and will deal with it, if rovers do sack him i'm sure he'll be snapped up very quickly. To be honest i've known the lad a very long time and he's one of the nicest blokes i know. Think its time to put it all to bed now.
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| Quote ="dunc"Ben has been given his penalty and will deal with it, if rovers do sack him i'm sure he'll be snapped up very quickly. To be honest i've known the lad a very long time and he's one of the nicest blokes i know. Think its time to put it all to bed now.'"
You're not allowed to say that. He is clearly a serial violent offender and potential murderer. It's not safe to walk the streets (unless he gets sacked by Rovers then everything will be ok again).
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| Quote ="dunc"he's one of the nicest blokes i know. '"
You don't get out much then?
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"But there was no CCTV footage, so it doesn't count.
Some of the posts on here are absolutely pathetic and the people mentioning Leon Walker should be ashamed. The tragic death of a young player has NOTHING to do with what Ben Cockayne did and using it to fuel the fire is just sickening (berrigans bitch).'"
Are you joking. it was rightfully reported in the media about his funeral and a rugby community mourning ast the loss of a young life, and on the same day a professional player who is a thug was splashed all over the news..
You want sickening mate watch the ctv footage of your player who took the limelight yesterday.
All you want to do is get into an argument of your player did this blah de blah..whose the sickening
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| Quote ="rover49"Perhaps if precedents had been set in the past by clubs when players had been convicted of violence, we might have a system in place to deal with it, instead we have this 'debate' everytime it happens.'"
Yes I agree, the scary thing is we may well be debating it again
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Are you joking. it was rightfully reported in the media about his funeral and a rugby community mourning ast the loss of a young life, and on the same day a professional player who is a thug was splashed all over the news..
You want sickening mate watch the ctv footage of your player who took the limelight yesterday.
All you want to do is get into an argument of your player did this blah de blah..whose the sickening'"
WTF has leon walker got to do with this, wind your neck in and go wash some pots!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Are you joking. it was rightfully reported in the media about his funeral and a rugby community mourning ast the loss of a young life, and on the same day a professional player who is a thug was splashed all over the news..
You want sickening mate watch the ctv footage of your player who took the limelight yesterday. All you want to do is get into an argument of your player did this blah de blah..whose the sickening'"
The press print it because the public like it, thats one reason I no longer bother with papers.
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/video.html?id=41953
forget this person is a rugby player and watch the video
he should have been locked up for that attack.'"
Looking at that he is lucky he didnt kill the bloke. Ive seen less than that do the trick. The other bloke doesnt even try to defend himself. Cowardly attack. Rovers need to dismiss him after that and again i feel seriously let down by the English legal system!!
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| Quote ="red al"WTF has leon walker got to do with this, wind your neck in and go wash some pots!
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your post says it all
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Looking at that he is lucky he didnt kill the bloke. Ive seen less than that do the trick. The other bloke doesnt even try to defend himself. Cowardly attack. Rovers need to dismiss him after that and again i feel seriously let down by the English legal system!!'"
as said before can't defend what he's done, but, unfortunately this sort of thing happens week in week out, he's been sentenced, deal with it!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Looking at that he is lucky he didnt kill the bloke. Ive seen less than that do the trick. The other bloke doesnt even try to defend himself. Cowardly attack. Rovers need to dismiss him after that and again i feel seriously let down by the English legal system!!'"
If Rovers do take the action of sacking him, I hope they get the RFL to refuse any other club permission to sign him, if not what would be the point, the player will not be punished just the club. I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.
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| Quote ="red al"as said before can't defend what he's done, but, unfortunately this sort of thing happens week in week out, he's been sentenced, deal with it!'"
Eh? Why should i get over not liking thugs like that to be walking the street still. It could have been anyone of us, would you be getting over it if was a relative of yours or your child for example? I know youre not defending it, but to say get over it is almost doing the same. Our legal system is pathetic.
Ive worked in town for a number of years and have seen incidents like this. Ive also seen a far less severe incident lead in death. Cockayne is a lucky boy, and a rovers player or not i would have been a little annoyed about this as you can tell.
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| Quote ="rover49"
If Rovers do take the action of sacking him, I hope they get the RFL to refuse any other club permission to sign him, if not what would be the point, the player will not be punished just the club. I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.'"
Agree.
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| Quote ="rover49"I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.'"
If Rovers are comfortable having an out and out thug in their squad then fine, leave them to it.
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| Quote ="rover49"
If Rovers do take the action of sacking him, I hope they get the RFL to refuse any other club permission to sign him, if not what would be the point, the player will not be punished just the club. I would imagine Rovers will take advice from the RFL and if they say they cannot prevent him signing elswhere, why would we sack him.'"
Again you are right, totally agree
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| Quote ="Banger"If Rovers are comfortable having an out and out thug in their squad then fine, leave them to it.'"
Oh get off your high horse. People in glass houses shouldn't be shooting automatic weapons, eh?
I'm happy to back whatever decision Hull KR make. If Ben stays, I'll support him as a Hull KR player, if he goes then he is of no interest to me.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Oh get of your high horse. People in glass houses shouldn't be shooting automatic weapons, eh?
I'm happy to back whatever decision Hull KR make. If Ben stays, I'll support him as a Hull KR player, if he goes then he is of no interest to me.'"
Dont think Rovers or Hull need to even be mentioned here. Its not Rovers fault that he's done what he's done. The simple matter here is that he has. If he worked for me i wouldnt want him tarnishing my companies name and would dismiss him for gross misconduct. Rovers must make a statement of intent here, Rugby League doesnt need this.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"But there was no CCTV footage, so it doesn't count.
Some of the posts on here are absolutely pathetic and the people mentioning Leon Walker should be ashamed. The tragic death of a young player has NOTHING to do with what Ben Cockayne did and using it to fuel the fire is just sickening (berrigans bitch).'"
If you actually take the trouble to read the majority of posts about this from FC fans they are saying that Raynor was also lucky not to get sent down. The fact that there was no CCTV released publicly is irrelevant.
Raynor committed a serious racially motivated offence and was rightly punished. BUT the severity of the sentences reflects the severity of the offences. Raynor 6 months suspended for 18, Cockayne 51 weeks suspended for 2 years. In the eyes of the legal system (which may be an ass ) Cockayne's is the more serious. End of.
And Berrigan's bitch has a point, in that the media have had the unfortunate opportunity to show RL in a positive light (with the sport joining together after Leon Walker's death) but the timing of the Cockayne case (and it could have been anybody) has put the mockers on that and the media can go back to portraying the sport in a poor light.
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| Did the guy who got beaten up do anything at all before taking a kicking off Ben??
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| Quote ="Banger"icon_eek.gif You don't get out much then?'"
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| Quote ="cab man"It would seem Bens chance for an England cap is back on. If he keeps playing the way he is, and win us the cup as i expect he will play a major part. For me Bens enthusiasm drove us to were we are now. Now he has been let off lightly he should grasp the opportunity and realise the potential he has got.
Cmon Ben.'"
Dont talk rubbish you t1t
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Eh? Why should i get over not liking thugs like that to be walking the street still. It could have been anyone of us, would you be getting over it if was a relative of yours or your child for example? I know youre not defending it, but to say get over it is almost doing the same. Our legal system is pathetic.
Ive worked in town for a number of years and have seen incidents like this. Ive also seen a far less severe incident lead in death. Cockayne is a lucky boy, and a rovers player or not i would have been a little annoyed about this as you can tell.'"
look, we are only being fed what the media think will sell papers, there are two sides to every story. as for joe bloggs in the street being attacked, if you conduct yourself in a manner not to attract idiots like cockayne, the chances are you will not be involved in an altercation. there are too many people jumping on bandwagons at the moment!
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I'm happy to back whatever decision Hull KR make. If Ben stays, I'll support him as a Hull KR player'"
Just out of interest, would the same apply regardless of the crime comitted?
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