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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I'm certain it was you who first called him French John'"
Could have been, I forget most of the Rubbish I post.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Could have been, I forget most of the Rubbish I post.'"
In your defence, you are not alone in posting rubbish on here and definitely among kindred spirits. Maybe you should change your name to Spouta Il Loadata.
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| In my belief is it's just 'one of those really unfortunate things' arising from various circumstances. I don't think for one minute JB is trying anything other than to stop Shenton's momentum. An act seen countless times throughout any game. In the end JB tries to use his leg/body to assist in the process after initially being wrong footed. At the same moment or so Shenton's body starts to twist due to the exertions from the men above and his own momentum. In the end Boudebza's action appears to counter the forces from above and leaves Shenton's knee in that awkward position. It's obviously not clear exactly what happens, but I reckon the force of Green coming in over the top finishing the tackle, is perhaps what causes the serious knee injury rather than a much lesser injury.
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| Just one of those things for me, looked it it numerous times, no intent in it, it happens.
Gutted for Shenny he's our captain but on the other hand gives young Greg Minikin a chance to shine (I think he will).
Its Rugby League not Tiddlywinks
Good luck for the rest of the season.
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| 4 match ban. The game is a joke.
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| 4 game ban is illogical.
My additional edit text below.
I bet Darryl Powell has been lined up by the RFL to assist Wayne Bennett. I have little doubt his media comment has adversely skewed the outcome. Why else would the RFL reach such a perverse and unmerited punishment? Disgraceful.
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| Ah well. Just when you think the RFL have hit rock bottom, they manage to dig their hole a bit deeper. There is no consistency at all, we have all seen much worse incidents totally ignored. They kick off when it suits, and ignore when it suits. Totally inept and without rhyme or reason.
We Have a great game, and they continue to bring it into disrepute with poor management both on and off the field.
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| The 4 games has probably come because of the bleating from Powell and Shenton.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"The 4 games has probably come because of the bleating from Powell and Shenton.'"
It looked innocuous to me and to most people but Shenton has every right to bleat if he thought it was reckless. He suffered the injury his season is over and it's a long road back to fitness.
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| Powell does a lot of that. Westwood got a harsh ban for tackle last season that was no worse than we see every week. Personally think 4 games is harsh. Probably due to the severity of the injury ,accident won't come into it. Expect to see more bans this season.
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| Quote ="Shazbaz"Powell does a lot of that. Westwood got a harsh ban for tackle last season that was no worse than we see every week. Personally think 4 games is harsh. Probably due to the severity of the injury ,accident won't come into it. Expect to see more bans this season.'"
So we now ban people based on the severity of the injury rather than the act that caused it? In that case, Millington should have got at leaast 4 games last season when Campese was tackled and suffered his ACL injury.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"So we now ban people based on the severity of the injury rather than the act that caused it? In that case, Millington should have got at leaast 4 games last season when Campese was tackled and suffered his ACL injury.'"
Apart from Campese was the one trying to make the tackle and Millington put him on his backside with a hand off, great point
And the Westwood "tackle" mentioned in the post was you quoted was high, left Gale in hospital and happened over a second after he passed the ball.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Apart from Campese was the one trying to make the tackle and Millington put him on his backside with a hand off, great point

And the Westwood "tackle" mentioned in the post was you quoted was high, left Gale in hospital and happened over a second after he passed the ball.'"
I agree with you on both counts
How about the justin Carney late shoulder charge to darryl gouldings head which ended his career?
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| Quote ="Oafy"I agree with you on both counts
How about the justin Carney late shoulder charge to darryl gouldings head which ended his career?'"
Goulding was carrying the ball at the time wasn't he? Carney is a moron on and off the pitch with a lousy and dangerous tackling technique though which is summed up by his disciplinary record over the years.
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| Will the RFL ban every player who attacks the legs for 4 games or just the ones that cause injury, can of worms been opened IMO.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Will the RFL ban every player who attacks the legs for 4 games or just the ones that cause injury, can of worms been opened IMO.'"
I'd like to see them do it and bring in a rule that the 3rd man in can't go below the hip. Make it an auto sin bin like grapple tackles, chicken wings and crushers are supposed to be on top of that too.
It would be best to clamp down on it now before someone ends up crippled.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I'd like to see them do it and bring in a rule that the 3rd man in can't go below the hip. Make it an auto sin bin like grapple tackles, chicken wings and crushers are supposed to be on top of that too.
It would be best to clamp down on it now before someone ends up crippled.'"
Gale was guilty of at least 2 similar tackles. Just not the resulting injury
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"It looked innocuous to me and to most people but Shenton has every right to bleat if he thought it was reckless. He suffered the injury his season is over and it's a long road back to fitness.'"
I was surprised it even went to the panel, if this is the standard to be set there SHOULD be a lot of bans coming up, but I doubt it. What happened to the 1-2 they said was the range anyway, are they allowed to double it because he plays for us or maybe because he is French. I hope Hudgell keeps a close eye on things and shouts very loud if this precedent is not followed up in other case.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Will the RFL ban every player who attacks the legs for 4 games or just the ones that cause injury, can of worms been opened IMO.'"
The clowns of red Hall strike again. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The numpties that run Red hall are so inconsistent that I'm sure the word itself was created and printed in the English dictionary especially for them.
If the tackle had been malicious with an intent to injure, then a ban would have been rightly forthcoming, however, after carefully watching the tackle on TV several times I didn't see anything that warranted a 4 match ban.
As a result of this verdict I believe the RFL have set a precedent and it will be interesting to see what they do in future games when you see the likes of Wigan players in particular employing that type of tackle in a game. Perhaps in future we should notify them every time such tackle takes place that is seen on the TV and if no action is taken ask them.... why not.?
Just don't expect an honest or logic answer from them.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Could have been, I forget most of the Rubbish I post.'"
To be honest Sandro it wasn't seeing as you denounced everybody who referred to him as French John from the very beginning 
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| I feel for Shenton, I really do. He's no spring chicken and he's gone through the Hell of predictions season and ended up losing a year of his career.
However, I was very disappointed with his and Powell's comments quoted by the BBC, it was a clear attempt to influence the disciplinary panel.
The disciplinary section on the RFL's website also states a grade B as 1 to 2 games, marked with an unanswered asterisk.
How do they get four?
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Will the RFL ban every player who attacks the legs for 4 games or just the ones that cause injury, can of worms been opened IMO.'"
Just seen Lee Jewitt's cannonball in the same game, far worse but not even a penalty given.
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| I'm glad were appealing somebody needs to stand up to this decision i feel for Shenton but it was an accident and the red hall idiots have gone on the injury and not what actually happened
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| Quote ="rover49"Just seen Lee Jewitt's cannonball in the same game, far worse but not even a penalty given.'"
Nothing wrong with it as it doesn't put undue pressure in the joint as it from behind, and keeping it the normal range if motion. Boudebza, whether he meant to or not, bent Shentons leg the wrong way.
FWIW I think its harsh to give 4 games. I think hes unlucky to be banned at all, as had Shenton not got injured the tackle would have gone unnoticed.
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| I can see both sides of this.
Cas have lost a front-line player for a whole season because of a tackle that an independent panel have found to be illegal. In terms of the suspension, injury caused has always been a mitigating factor in setting the length of a suspension, hence the departure from the guidelines.
However, I have to assume that the panel had sight of further video footage, as the only clip I have seen is, in my opinion, inconclusive. Ultimately, only the offending player himself knows if the illegality of the tackle was intentional. I dislike it when coaches/commentators or anyone else claim that something is either intentional or not, as this is something only the offending player can possibly know.
All in all, both sets of supporters are disappointed with the incident. However, I suggest losing a player for four weeks is preferable to losing one for the whole season.
I have never liked the third man in making any contact with the legs, it would be easier just to ban it altogether.
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