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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"
All,jokes aside can't quite believe this has happened with Krissy really like the kid and it'll be very weird to see him line up against us.
He's had a great season with us this year and I can't wish him anything but the best.
Good luck Kris, in my opinion, he never did anything but give his all, you can't ask more than that.'"
Aye, couldn't agree more. A player who I enjoyed watching play for Rovers a lot.
I'll always remember his try in the play-off game we won. Arguably the high point of our SL adventures.
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| Welham much improved after 2 dire seasons. He's been pretty solid this season but still not top class compared to certain teams. Probably leaving because he won't be a first choice centre next season. Shame to see him go all the same. On the other hand can someone please send a taxi for Turnstile Salter ASAP.
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| I do get frustrated with some of the comments on here! not good enough for Rovers not the standard we want? This is the Kris Wellham who would have had international honours if he had not had a season ending injury (playing for Rovers) The Kris Wellham who is getting back to near his best & will captain the side tomorrow. I can't argue with the club or Kris if they can't agree & part company but to read some of the drivell on here turns my stomach, He has served this club well for 9 years. Finaly where are all the world class stars we are replacing him with? non of our recent signings in that area are any better than him. Good luck Kris I expect we will regret letting you go.
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| Quote ="hull2524"just said on sky scott wheeldon back to hull? think that might mean rovers?'"
I thought it was just me that heard Stevo say that. FC seem to be well stocked in that department at the minute whilst we are not, so could be a possibility
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I do get frustrated with some of the comments on here! not good enough for Rovers not the standard we want? This is the Kris Wellham who would have had international honours if he had not had a season ending injury (playing for Rovers) The Kris Wellham who is getting back to near his best & will captain the side tomorrow. I can't argue with the club or Kris if they can't agree & part company but to read some of the drivell on here turns my stomach, He has served this club well for 9 years. Finaly where are all the world class stars we are replacing him with? non of our recent signings in that area are any better than him. Good luck Kris I expect we will regret letting you go.'"
Have you forgotten the two seasons previous to this one when he was terrible and that he was offered a contract earlier in the season but turned it down take those rose tinted glasses off as I for one won't miss him jumping out the line leaving his winger exposed good servant yes but time to go
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| Good luck wherever you end up Kris (unless it's the dark side !!!!).
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| So, all of a sudden, Kris Welham with his 100 tries in 189 super league games isn't good enough for rovers? As it stands in 2016 we'll have Thornley (replacing Goulding), Minns (replacing Welham) and Salter fighting for the centre positions. I reckon that makes us weaker in the centres at the start of 2016 than we were in 2015 and we only managed to finish 10th this year! Unless, of course, we've got another top centre lined up but with our overseas quota full, which British centre could we realistically get to improve on 2015 squad? Starting to get a bit worried about our recruitment strategy. We also need major additions to the pack if we're aiming to go from 10th to 6th next year. Can't see where the better players to improve us will come from.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I do get frustrated with some of the comments on here! not good enough for Rovers not the standard we want? This is the Kris Wellham who would have had international honours if he had not had a season ending injury (playing for Rovers) The Kris Wellham who is getting back to near his best & will captain the side tomorrow. I can't argue with the club or Kris if they can't agree & part company but to read some of the drivell on here turns my stomach, He has served this club well for 9 years. Finaly where are all the world class stars we are replacing him with? non of our recent signings in that area are any better than him. Good luck Kris I expect we will regret letting you go.'"
As far as i'm aware he was one of the top earners at the club after Leeds came sniffing around prior to him signing his current contract, is he quality enough to be a top earner in the team? NO! he was offered a new contract on reduced rates which he couldn't accept (his choice). he spent 2 years of his current 3 year deal being terrible and a liability in defence. this season he has screwed the nut a bit and played better but not enough to justify a contract extension on par with his current rate in my opinion. for the club to progress they need to replace the weak links with better quality players or young players with potential to be better than what is already at the club. Kris was definitely a weak link in defence, let him go and frustrate a different set of fans for a while.
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| Quote ="REDEOD"As far as i'm aware he was one of the top earners at the club after Leeds came sniffing around prior to him signing his current contract, is he quality enough to be a top earner in the team? NO! he was offered a new contract on reduced rates which he couldn't accept (his choice). he spent 2 years of his current 3 year deal being terrible and a liability in defence. this season he has screwed the nut a bit and played better but not enough to justify a contract extension on par with his current rate in my opinion. for the club to progress they need to replace the weak links with better quality players or young players with potential to be better than what is already at the club. Kris was definitely a weak link in defence, let him go and frustrate a different set of fans for a while.'"
I can't & won't argue that he is the best in the league or that his own & the clubs value of his worth are different. My only gripe is with the key board warriors on here saying he is not good enough for us, He is good enough & anyone who has scored 100 try's (only 17 others have done that since the club started in the 1890's) can't be that bad, as for his defence it satisfactory & could be better but he is not the sole reason we have shipped in to many points & a lot around him need to look at their own defence or lack of it. & to sugest that any of the new recruits are a class above are rubbish, though I would love them all to bloom at this club like Boudebza has but like him it is a gamble. I suspect that it all comes down to money & the club can get two youngsters for his wage? & nothing to do with his ability.
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| Quote ="rover49"Good luck wherever you end up Kris (unless it's the dark side !!!!).'"
Behave.
If that happened we could have the dream team pairing of Yeaman and Welham.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I can't & won't argue that he is the best in the league or that his own & the clubs value of his worth are different. My only gripe is with the key board warriors on here saying he is not good enough for us, He is good enough & anyone who has scored 100 try's (only 17 others have done that since the club started in the 1890's) can't be that bad, as for his defence it satisfactory & could be better but he is not the sole reason we have shipped in to many points & a lot around him need to look at their own defence or lack of it. & to sugest that any of the new recruits are a class above are rubbish, though I would love them all to bloom at this club like Boudebza has but like him it is a gamble. I suspect that it all comes down to money & the club can get two youngsters for his wage? & nothing to do with his ability.'"
Is Kris Welham a top 8 centre, if the answer is no, then Rovers have made the right decision.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Is Kris Welham a top 8 centre, if the answer is no, then Rovers have made the right decision.'"
He's not.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Is Kris Welham a top 8 centre, if the answer is no, then Rovers have made the right decision.'"
No. But the frustrating thing is that we're not replacing him with anyone that is a top 8 centre. Minns may well turn out to be decent but it's certainly a gamble and you wouldn't call him top 8 material yet. I'm sure he will be however, a much cheaper option than Welham. A sign of the times at the club?
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| Quote ="Beverley Robin"No. But the frustrating thing is that we're not replacing him with anyone that is a top 8 centre. Minns may well turn out to be decent but it's certainly a gamble and you wouldn't call him top 8 material yet. I'm sure he will be however, a much cheaper option than Welham. A sign of the times at the club?'"
It's all about getting value for money with the salary cap, for example say Welham is on twice as much as Salter (I reckon he could be more on his old deal), is Welham twice as good as Salter?
I suppose both your new centres have potential to be better than Welham or at least that is what Chester believes, whilst it's very unlikely that Welham will improve enough to be a top centre.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It's all about getting value for money with the salary cap, for example say Welham is on twice as much as Salter (I reckon he could be more on his old deal), is Welham twice as good as Salter?
I suppose both your new centres have potential to be better than Welham or at least that is what Chester believes, whilst it's very unlikely that Welham will improve enough to be a top centre.'"
All of the above is true, of course, and it seems that we're having to balance the salary cap within the squad. I just feel that, salary cap benefits aside, we'll be weaker in the centres in 2016 than we were in 2015. Unless there are more signings to come in the centres but that doesn't sound likely. To me, this doesn't bode well for the clubs public ambition of being comfortably in the top 8 next year.
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| Quote ="Beverley Robin"All of the above is true, of course, and it seems that we're having to balance the salary cap within the squad. I just feel that, salary cap benefits aside, we'll be weaker in the centres in 2016 than we were in 2015. Unless there are more signings to come in the centres but that doesn't sound likely. To me, this doesn't bode well for the clubs public ambition of being comfortably in the top 8 next year.'"
Watch welhams performance at Wembley against a top class centre and you realise how far away from been one himself he is thanks for your efforts kris but no big loss time to move on
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Watch welhams performance at Wembley against a top class centre and you realise how far away from been one himself he is thanks for your efforts kris but no big loss time to move on'"
I agree! I said earlier that i don't think he's top 8 material. Couldn't see him signing for anyone who finished higher than us this year. I just think that with the signings announced so far for 2016, we'll be weaker in the centres than we were at the start of 2015. I guess I'll reserve final judgement until we announce that our 2016 recruitment is done.
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| Quote ="Beverley Robin"I agree! I said earlier that i don't think he's top 8 material. Couldn't see him signing for anyone who finished higher than us this year. I just think that with the signings announced so far for 2016, we'll be weaker in the centres than we were at the start of 2015. I guess I'll reserve final judgement until we announce that our 2016 recruitment is done.'"
I just can't see the club going into next season with either minns or salter as first choice centres so we must have someone else in mind
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| Quote ="Beverley Robin"No. But the frustrating thing is that we're not replacing him with anyone that is a top 8 centre. Minns may well turn out to be decent but it's certainly a gamble and you wouldn't call him top 8 material yet. I'm sure he will be however, a much cheaper option than Welham. A sign of the times at the club?'"
Before you pass judgement on Thomas Minns why not wait until you have seen him in action. A member of staff at the Rhinos (not JP ) who's opinion I respect said Minns is very unfortunate that Watkins & Moon are at the club otherwise he is certain Minns would be a regular in the side.
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| Quote ="Aldy"Before you pass judgement on Thomas Minns why not wait until you have seen him in action. A member of staff at the Rhinos (not JP ) who's opinion I respect said Minns is very unfortunate that Watkins & Moon are at the club otherwise he is certain Minns would be a regular in the side.'"
He was runner up for championship young player of the year as well so people constantly say we should be scouring the championship to bring forwards in so why should it be any different with backs?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I just can't see the club going into next season with either minns or salter as first choice centres so we must have someone else in mind'"
Frankie. Up here in Pickering, sadly there are a few Rhinos fans near me but some of them are good friends. They all rate Minns very highly and reckon that he is much better than Keinhorst was at the same age. He's just got Moon and Watkins in his way, both young, both exceptional and both limiting his first team opportunities.
He will be our starting left centre imo next season filling the vacant Kris Welham position.
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| Turnstyles at the KC are now fully automatic so he won't be signing for us
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Turnstyles at the KC are now fully automatic so he won't be signing for us'"
You need a centre now you've turned kirk into you 15th second rower in your squad
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"You need a centre now you've turned kirk into you 15th second rower in your squad'"
No we don't, we've signed a stand off to play there.
2 of our back rowers on their way out from what I've been told
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Watch welhams performance at Wembley against a top class centre and you realise how far away from been one himself he is thanks for your efforts kris but no big loss time to move on'"
On that basis we should get rid of everyone who played at Wembley then lol
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