Gave you the chance to get to fifth on Thursday night now make the most of it

very kind of you thanks very much

...and an away tie in the playoffs....... v Leigh

better than Barrow away to start with

Perfect oppurtunity to get our first win at the LSV!

Now I wasn't going to remind you, although I could have done. If I had however it could have come back to bite me.

No point just winning any old game, need it to stick

I reckon the chance of keeping the leythers from being able to apply would be more motivation than the team has had in ages. We might just win that one. I'm not saying we'd go in favourites, but I think we could give them a game at least.

No point in Leigh applying now though is there, the path has been cleared for you and you alone (and Toulouse of course). Are you going to enjoy a full season of friendlies next year, as you will have nothing to play for.

We haven't had since we won the NRC, its the same circumstances. I think if and when we are announced to be the team chosen for super league from that point on we could actually start to ride a crest of optimism and you might see our crowds increase. There is a hell of a lot of cynicism from many fans in this league at this moment which would obviously disappear in large quantities if we were given the nod.

Friendlies they might be but the fans would want our team to go out on a high and it would be a very happy time for the club.

If?



I don't thing the cynicism would go anywhere. Also WHEN you go up unless you get stitched up again and they put Toulouse in, you will be wished well by some and not by others. I feel the RFL haven't helped this with the recent release of 'new' criteria for Champ clubs, the guidelines for which look to have been written following a phone call to SOC where he was asked what limits would allow Widnes to apply but which would categorically rule out everyone else.

=#FF0000edit: Sorry for the cynicism

The backlash against us has already started, and can I remind every one of the whingers it is not our fault? None of this is. We don't control the RFL, I think that much has been obvious over the years. Direct your criticism to the right people and leave us out of it.

Your right you don't control the RFL, money does

I wonder when we will get the first ' Super League your having a laugh' sung at us.

Don't worry, I doubt it will be too long. How about first round of the play offs this year when you play us at the LSV

Don't forget the last time you were in the ascendancy over us and we met you at HP in the play offs. Terzis's tears were great. We're due a result against you Leythers

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It's all your fault. Everything is. All of it. Steve O'Connor and his massive purse. It's a disgrace.

To be fair, there's been a similar backlash from Widnes fans against Celtic.

I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid if the RFL just came out and said Widnes are the only Championship club that they will consider for a franchise, rather than setting criteria retrospectively.

Given that it's been pretty obvious for a while that you would be getting a franchise this time round, why didn't they just give you a franchise last time?!

Just glancing round the terraces of the LSV sings it back for your lot

I did think at the time why are they fighting (lying) to put three into two spots rather than just putting all 3 of us obvious choices in!