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| Okay, i was under the impression that the cap was 400k this year and next it will be 300k unless your turnover is 1mill plus then you can spend to the full 400k
Then i read this on the Leigh board from Steven Gardside.........(steve is a member of the Gateshead board)
Quote ="Rumpole"In short to everyone we do not get any funding from the RFL at all. We get the same funding from the the RFL as all other clubs in the league.
Rod came to the club to take on the task of CEO from the RFL and it was a change he wanted to make to further his own knowledge and career within the sport. He has a knowledge of the workings of the RFL having worked their just as others who left Red Hall last year have. He is not the only legal eagle at Thunder just as I am aware that Leigh have legal representation on the board.
The salary cap is subject to scrutiny however, all clubs with low gates can apply for cirtain exemptions but the [size=150£400k (now to be £350k)[/size stays the same. Over the past 4 years I have spent over £500k to keep professional RL alive in the North East. I will never get that back as it is spent on the club as it is classed as income the same way as sponsorship is. What I choose to spend my tax paid money on is my decision save for the fact that the RFL tell me that in essence I cant take it back should we get rich. A fat chace that will come into the equation!!!!
We were lucky this year at avoiding the drop. We did not get our full squad until the late and had to build on that. We had turmoil at the start of the season with the former head coach going and the appointment of Steve Mac was the right one to take hence his 3 year contract with the club.
I do not mind discussing the game with fans of all clubs and I post on our fans forum under the title "Rumpole".
I do not understand why others dont do it as I have never hidden anything about the club from anyone so my view if you have nothing to hide then why not post debates with fans.
You will always get those fans who know it all and do like to cause a stir but at the end of the day thats life and we all have our ideas about the game and the clubs.
For those who really know me they will be aware of my warnings about the Celtic Crusaders and what they were doing and for what it is worth all of my theories came to be nearer the truth thaan a chairmans rant at being thrashed by them.
As I have said earlier in my posts good luck for the season and I hope that we will meet again in the near future either at LSV or the GIS.
Kind Regards
Steven G AKA Rumpole'"
So it is 350k!!!!!!! not 300?
The extra 50k will get you 3 good players on part time deals at this level.
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| The way I understood it we could spend 40% of our income up to £300,000. As far as I know we are hoping to spend £400,000 by utilising under 21s and dual registration players which don't count on the cap. This is of course only if we can generate £1,000,000 in order to keep within the 40%. Nowhere else have i seen or heard about a £350,000 limit unless he was again refering to total expenditure including players who don't count on the cap.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Okay, i was under the impression that the cap was 400k this year and next it will be 300k unless your turnover is 1mill plus then you can spend to the full 400k
Then i read this on the Leigh board from Steven Gardside.........(steve is a member of the Gateshead board)
So it is 350k!!!!!!! not 300?
The extra 50k will get you 3 good players on part time deals at this level.'"
Ours is much higher.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Heard Stationary Box in Halifax has run out of Brown envelopes today.
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It's [istationery[/i.
Stationary is when you stand still - you know, like Widnes are doing now they've ticked the magic box
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| No idea where he is getting £350k from - I've not seen that figure mentioned either in the current cap rules or in the press release about next year's reduced cap.
Then again we are talking about the RFL here, so I would not be the slightest bit surprised to learn that the new rules will include an extra clause:
Quote 4a. Notwithstanding the above, the RFL reserves the right to make it up as we go along as per usual.'"
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| Quote ="The Original Redviking"unfortunately stat box went out of business nearly 3 years ago making me redundant from head office in the process
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Yeah but you know yorkshire get everything after civilisation so stat box is still thriving over yonder. When the recession hits over there all the yarkshur clubs wont be throwing all this money around.
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| [urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/championship/news_item.php?id=14983[/url
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| Quote ="littlerich"It's [istationery[/i.
Stationary is when you stand still - you know, like Widnes are doing now they've ticked the magic box
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Better than going backwards after a spectacular capitulation lol
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| Quote ="littlerich"That's Vikingman for ya. He knows nowt
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And come on Barrow.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"
And come on Barrow.'"
Thanks for that. We'll see what we can do
Regarding the salary cap. Getting Championship clubs to vote for the reduction was bound to get a positive vote. The poorer supported clubs are always going to vote 'for' as it brings the better-off clubs down to their level by decreasing their player spend. Say Widnes had a turnover of £2M, then what are they supposed to do with the hundreds of thousands they can't spend on players ??
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| Quote ="SRC"Thanks for that. We'll see what we can do
Regarding the salary cap. Getting Championship clubs to vote for the reduction was bound to get a positive vote. The poorer supported clubs are always going to vote 'for' as it brings the better-off clubs down to their level by decreasing their player spend. Say Widnes had a turnover of £2M, t:3t9g4kcxhen what are they supposed to do with the hundreds of thousands they can't spend on players ??[/
Bribe the RFL !!!!
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| Quote ="littlerich"It's [istationery[/i.
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Yes we ticked that box ny winning the northern rail cup and i think we beat a team called halifax in the semi finals.
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"Better than going backwards after a spectacular capitulation lol'"
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| Quote ="Eye of the viking"Yes we ticked that box [iby[/i winning the northern rail cup and i think we [iwere lucky to[/i beat a team called halifax in the semi finals. [i(due to a one sided 1st half penalty count and we even had to resort to covering the ball in soap). In fact, we're not actually as good as we think we are.[/i
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| Quote ="SRC"Thanks for that. We'll see what we can do
Regarding the salary cap. Getting Championship clubs to vote for the reduction was bound to get a positive vote. The poorer supported clubs are always going to vote 'for' as it brings the better-off clubs down to their level by decreasing their player spend. Say Widnes had a turnover of £2M, then what are they supposed to do with the hundreds of thousands they can't spend on players ??'"
If we had that much turnover we'd be on a 400k cap
But use it on stadium and youth development to tick even more of those precious(? or not ?) boxes!
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| Quote ="J20"If we had that much turnover we'd be on a 400k cap
But use it on stadium and youth development to tick even more of those precious(? or not ?) boxes!'"
Don't think we would use it on the stadium.. it's only recently been updated to the tune of £1million pounds. Can't see it needing anything for quite a while yet. It's still one of the premier purpose built stadiums in the sport.
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| We're putting so much effort and time and money into this bid and does anyone else feel the "trustworthy" RFL will just in the end promote who the hell they feel like and disregard all this?
I can't begin to trust them. It'd save us so much time, effort and money to tell us now if that is the case.
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| Halifax are obsessed with the refs in this comp, i await the thursday night bashing thread.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"We're putting so much effort and time and money into this bid and does anyone else feel the "trustworthy" RFL will just in the end promote who the hell they feel like and disregard all this?
I can't begin to trust them. It'd save us so much time, effort and money to tell us now if that is the case.'"
That's exactly what will happen. Forget all the criteria bollox, that only applies to heartland clubs anyway. They'll put in who they want, as they did last time.
I still think Widnes are in poll position and it will be very difficult for even the RFL to come up with an excuse to turn us down next time, if we carry on the way we are. We do need to remain competitive though, and another trophy next season should do the trick.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Halifax are obsessed with the refs in this comp, i await the thursday night bashing thread.'"
Halifax and Whitehaven boards are a bit of a joke for ref bashing after a defeat. Even when the ref has actually done everything in his power to give them the game, as Ronnie Laughton did in the Halifax NRC semi-final against us. He gave them 3 trys that should never have even been considered, and actually over-rued a linesman who was in a much better position, and they still whinge about it!!!!
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