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| 3,206 well done to all the fans who travelled.
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| I would be interested to know from those who went did they think the crowd was that big???
If not how many did they think were there?
How many did Widnes take?
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"I would be interested to know from those who went did they think the crowd was that big???
If not how many did they think were there?
How many did Widnes take?'"
Think Widnes had about 4 or 500 scattered around, didnt look 3,000 plus IMO.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Think Widnes had about 4 or 500 scattered around, didnt look 3,000 plus IMO.'"
They must have borrowed Salford's crowd counter..
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"They must have borrowed Salford's crowd counter..'"
There must have been 2000 in the stand under the camera because there was barely 1000 in the stand opposite the camera and behing the sticks...
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"3,206 well done to all the fans who travelled.
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Crowd was announced as 3,504 when we played there. Just so you know
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Crowd was announced as 3,504 when we played there. Just so you know
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PMSL !!!
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| Ours was announced as just over two and a half but if there were more than 1500 there i would be suprised.
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| I thought RL was big down there, how far from their usual ground was this one and how big is the the population of 2lose again?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Crowd was announced as 3,504 when we played there. Just so you know
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Balls, that was a typo.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Balls, that was a typo.'"
Seriously it was announced as that , then changed to 2100 in the press
We all had a laugh
Not a problem for us next year anyway we wont be going
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| Quote ="Starbug"Seriously it was announced as that , then changed to 2100 in the press
We all had a laugh
Not a problem for us next year anyway we wont be going
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Told you before, beat Donny next week and do Gateshead and your up.
Simples.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Told you before, beat Donny next week and do Gateshead and your up.
Simples.
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Like you and Fax have done
If we play like yesterday against Donny we might get a bonus point
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| Quote ="nes2002"PMSL !!!'"
See the posts above. No way in the memory of mon there was more than 1,500 there, like.
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| Quote ="SNOT-HIM08"I thought RL was big down there, how far from their usual ground was this one and how big is the the population of 2lose again?'"
RL isn't big down there.
It used to be a decent size before Rugby Union did their best to suppress it in the 1930's. It's very slowly been dying since which is why we needed to include Les Catalans and hopefully Toulouse in the future to ensure that the game starts to recover.
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"RL isn't big down there.
It used to be a decent size before Rugby Union did their best to suppress it in the 1930's. It's very slowly been dying since which is why we needed to include Les Catalans and hopefully Toulouse in the future to ensure that the game starts to recover.'"
Yer at OUR expense, thats all Championship clubs with ambition I mean.
Why the hell should we in England prop up the French game for yet more Aussies to play RL???
We have enough problems look at the England performances down under thsi year???
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Yer at OUR expense, thats all Championship clubs with ambition I mean.
Why the hell should we in England prop up the French game for yet more Aussies to play RL???
We have enough problems look at the England performances down under thsi year???'"
There are not as many Aussies as you would like to think.
We have an obligation to ensure that the game doesn't die in France and believe me it had had its last rights. Over time this will go a long way to helping the French game to recover which will benefit the whole of RL.
Since the introduction of Les Cats player numbers are up 30% in France. But we should just forget that and let them die so Halifax can bring another 4000 English fans to Super League.
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"There are not as many Aussies as you would like to think.
We have an obligation to ensure that the game doesn't die in France and believe me it had had its last rights. Over time this will go a long way to helping the French game to recover which will benefit the whole of RL.
Since the introduction of Les Cats player numbers are up 30% in France. But we should just forget that and let them die so Halifax can bring another 4000 English fans to Super League.'"
Agree but don't put Toulouse in SL just because they are in France.
Just keep the Catalans in the SL as the game will never be strong enough over there to provide enough players for more than one club in SL, it struggles to supply enough for Catalans now!
Come on look at us in England we struggle to provide enough players for SL, you may have noticed there are rather a lot of Aussies and New Zealanders playing over here.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Agree but don't put Toulouse in SL just because they are in France.
Just keep the Catalans in the SL as the game will never be strong enough over there to provide enough players for more than one club in SL, it struggles to supply enough for Catalans now!
Come on look at us in England we struggle to provide enough players for SL, you may have noticed there are rather a lot of Aussies and New Zealanders playing over here.'"
I see what you're saying about the depth of French players but with an extra team these will come. I feel Toulouse are necessary to keep the ball rolling in France and to provide Les Cats with a derby.
They shouldn't go in just because they are in France but they are good enough in my opinion. They will be a damn sight better prepared than the Crusaders.
People forget it is a European Super League and as a sport we need to expand. A strong France would be great for Northern Hemisphere RL. We need to concentrate on our own bids and from a Widnes point of view we are far enough ahead of other existing teams without having to worry about Toulouse.
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| Yeah it is a European Super League, and having clubs from different countries is much more fun IMO, it is also a fantastic argument to get more TV money from SkY and from other TV from other countries.
I would like to add that France has enough licensed players to get the raw talents for TWO teams in SL (but not more for the moment). There are 9,000 licensed players in France versus 64,000 in England. The ratio is roughly 6 to 1 which means that for 6 English teams you can form 1 team. It is a very rough calculation, however the law of large numbers is a strong indication that there are enough raw talents in 9,000 licensed players to create two competitive teams. After France may be a bit short on the structure to select them and train them to the required level, but with 2 years to go before a possible inclusion in SL for Toulouse, I am pretty sure they will have the time to find and train enough players to make a reasonable start in SL (for comparison purposes, better than Celtic).
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| I believe I read somewhere that Toulouse were allowed 5 Aussies this year but had to reduce it to 2 next year. Anyone know if this is correct?
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"I see what you're saying about the depth of French players but with an extra team these will come. I feel Toulouse are necessary to keep the ball rolling in France and to provide Les Cats with a derby.
They shouldn't go in just because they are in France but they are good enough in my opinion. They will be a damn sight better prepared than the Crusaders.
People forget it is a European Super League and as a sport we need to expand. A strong France would be great for Northern Hemisphere RL. We need to concentrate on our own bids and from a Widnes point of view we are far enough ahead of other existing teams without having to worry about Toulouse.'"
Toulouse are near the bottom of the Championship table so how are they 'ready'???
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Toulouse are near the bottom of the Championship table so how are they 'ready'???'"
They have another two years and they weren't adequately prepared this season having played no friendlies.
Plus they are an expansion club, they are not likely to be as ready as existing clubs and we shouldn't expect them to be.
Plus you will find I said 'good enough' and not 'ready' don't try and put words in my mouth.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"I believe I read somewhere that Toulouse were allowed 5 Aussies this year but had to reduce it to 2 next year. Anyone know if this is correct?'"
This is correct but of course they are full of Australians so don't believe the actual truth.
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"This is correct but of course they are full of Australians so don't believe the actual truth.'"
They had Bromley, Mitchell, Worth & Timothy Wynn against us. We had TKL, Gannon & Webster. Halifax have Black, Wilson & Watene.
Seems to me the main difference is all our overseas players are off quota now.
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