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| Quote ="rovers"
Well hes at Widnes now so obviously he hasnt got any ambition. Your team is full of big time charlies and when you get among em they dont like it'"
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| Quote ="rovers"Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"Not if he has any ambition.'"
Well hes at Widnes now so obviously he hasnt got any ambition. Your team is full of big time charlies and when you get among em they dont like it'" '"
Not going to bite regarding your ambition comment, but Widnes completely bullied Fev earlier in the year, bullied Barrow in the NRC final and bullied Fax the other week. IMO we didn't win the game on Sunday for 2 reasons, 1) poor defending on our own line - fev seemed to score almost everytime they got in our 20. 2) we looked a bit clueless in the fev 20 with ball in hand. A few chips and grubbers kicks were dangerous, but the passing was slow and apart from Thackeray there was no-one who looked line breaking the line close in. There were far too many inside balls to forwards who were stood still and had no chance of barging over. When we did try to get it wide, the passing slow and the defence was easily good enough to cope.
Not a terrible performance from Widnes, just a little flat and lack of killer instinct to put the game to bed when we had the opportunities.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Quote ="rovers"
Not going to bite regarding your ambition comment, but Widnes completely bullied Fev earlier in the year, bullied Barrow in the NRC final and bullied Fax the other week. IMO we didn't win the game on Sunday for 2 reasons, 1) poor defending on our own line - fev seemed to score almost everytime they got in our 20. 2) we looked a bit clueless in the fev 20 with ball in hand. A few chips and grubbers kicks were dangerous, but the passing was slow and apart from Thackeray there was no-one who looked line breaking the line close in. There were far too many inside balls to forwards who were stood still and had no chance of barging over. When we did try to get it wide, the passing slow and the defence was easily good enough to cope.
Not a terrible performance from Widnes, just a little flat and lack of killer instinct to put the game to bed when we had the opportunities.'" '"
What do you mean not going to bite, i was returning a arrogant "go to fev if you have no ambition" comment, we have the same ambition as Widnes, that being super league, we have plans for a 50 million development including new stadium on the 18 acres of land we own. We are not reliant on ONE money man. The remark i replyd to sums up to me why you lost Sun, your players and fans think your already in super league and a cut above teams like Rovers. YOU ARE NOT, be careful because like Halifax your arrogance will be your undoing
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| Rovers you tool - see me for a prescription. You need help with that complex of yours!!!
Look we all have ambition. Rovers do not want to 'tread water' in the championship though this is the best comp by far this year for sheer excitement. It would be a handicappers dream of 6 horses in a line going into the final furlong. But SL is still the holy grail for most championship clubs.
Whether we sign Grayshon, or anyone else from Widnes remains to be confirmed by the club. But to suggest a player has no ambition if they sign for a rival of Widnes is a little churlish I feel, but only my opinion. (Well 'rovers' as well despite his eloquence)!
Good craic Sunday - and another great exhibition of championship rugby!
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"Not if he has any ambition.'"
I think thats abit unfair to say, after all Widnes is not the best in the league
so what they have a tick for superleague but so will another club next year if widnes don't win the NRC again and who ever wins the grand final.
bitter talk
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What do you mean not going to bite, i was returning a arrogant "go to fev if you have no ambition" comment, we have the same ambition as Widnes, that being super league, we have plans for a 50 million development including new stadium on the 18 acres of land we own. We are not reliant on ONE money man. The remark i replyd to sums up to me why you lost Sun, your players and fans think your already in super league and a cut above teams like Rovers. YOU ARE NOT, be careful because like Halifax your arrogance will be your undoing'"
What so because of one comment you've come to the conclusion that the club believes we're better than anyone else and already in super league? I suggest u pull your head out of your and wake up. Oh and get that chip off your shoulder while you're at it.
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"What so because of one comment you've come to the conclusion that the club believes we're better than anyone else and already in super league? I suggest u pull your head out of your booty and wake up. Oh and get that chip off your shoulder while you're at it.'"
Ignore it, they've just proved that there should be an IQ test before posting on't internet.
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| "they" being whom?
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"I think thats abit unfair to say, after all Widnes is not the best in the league
so what they have a tick for superleague but so will another club next year if widnes don't win the NRC again and who ever wins the grand final.
bitter talk'"
Sure your a Wire!
It's not bitter talk all saying is surely Widnes is a better club to be @ than Fev atm? Most likely challenging titles and most likley for SL, Wrong???
I like Fev but doubt they have the sort of money to bag all players linked with! Plus they aint got a money man but can build a 50mil complex? Yea ok! Fudned from same council who won't help Wakey build theres?
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| The proposals for a new stadium at Fev is one of a self funded arrangement based on thus:-
Fev own a great deal of land. Developed into retail units on long leases (pledges are there - and eager, from big chains Asda, morrisson's etc) wanting to come on board as the area doesn't have such opportunities. Sports complexes are also to be built and leased out - again much with interest and eagerness from prospective partners. All would provide a regular income to rovers.
The leasing of the buildings and land would then release the capital for a 6-12k all/part seater modular stadium fit for purpose. All this without any need for local authority funding - such as Cas or Wakey. Fev are not reliant on one investor to bail them out or keep them afloat.
Nowt will happen fast. It never does. And yes, you are right - at the mo, Widnes are probably better placed than Fev are for SL. But more ambitious - no. No more, no less.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"The proposals for a new stadium at Fev is one of a self funded arrangement based on thus:-
Fev own a great deal of land. Developed into retail units on long leases (pledges are there - and eager, from big chains Asda, morrisson's etc) wanting to come on board as the area doesn't have such opportunities. Sports complexes are also to be built and leased out - again much with interest and eagerness from prospective partners. All would provide a regular income to rovers.
The leasing of the buildings and land would then release the capital for a 6-12k all/part seater modular stadium fit for purpose. All this without any need for local authority funding - such as Cas or Wakey. Fev are not reliant on one investor to bail them out or keep them afloat.
Nowt will happen fast. It never does. And yes, you are right - at the mo, Widnes are probably better placed than Fev are for SL. But more ambitious - no. No more, no less.'"
Ah right, cheers for info! Hope all goes through then! Have they just always had that land like?
AMBITION is a tough one! Look at Footy everyone talks about going to Citeh for their 'ambition' question what 'AMBITION' do they have any different to other clubs? Especially top4? To be the best club side in the World and a global brand???
Ambition ahs to be paired with realsim IMO and that's where Widnes would come out on top atm!
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| Quote ="J20"Sure your a Wire!
It's not bitter talk all saying is surely Widnes is a better club to be @ than Fev atm? Most likely challenging titles and most likley for SL, Wrong???
You've got to remember its what goes on behind the scenes as wel as the potential of the club the player is playing for. Grayshon might not get on with coaching staff/ not been offered a deal by widnes ?? Who knows.
I just think that Fev arn't a bad club to be at thats all.
theres more to life than Widnes Vikings no matter what league you play in and like i said previous widnes have the first tick. So what!! so will a few others in a few years, widnes arn't going to win everything are they.
i just think you should not slate players who decide to leave.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Quote ="J20"Sure your a Wire!
It's not bitter talk all saying is surely Widnes is a better club to be @ than Fev atm? Most likely challenging titles and most likley for SL, Wrong???
You've got to remember its what goes on behind the scenes as wel as the potential of the club the player is playing for. Grayshon might not get on with coaching staff/ not been offered a deal by widnes ?? Who knows.
I just think that Fev arn't a bad club to be at thats all.
theres more to life than Widnes Vikings no matter what league you play in and like i said previous widnes have the first tick. So what!! so will a few others in a few years, widnes arn't going to win everything are they.
i just think you should not slate players who decide to leave.'" '"
Am not slating players who won't to go in slightest! Plus we may not even want to keep Grayshon for all we know!
I was discussing the ambition / bigger club bit, not players!
Like I wouldn't blame JD for going Leigh as he's one of best halfs in this league so deserves a 1st team spot etc!
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| Quote ="J20"Quote ="JAMIE86"
Am not slating players who won't to go in slightest! Plus we may not even want to keep Grayshon for all we know!
I was discussing the ambition / bigger club bit, not players!
Like I wouldn't blame JD for going Leigh as he's one of best halfs in this league so deserves a 1st team spot etc!'" '"
Ive noticed you also write some tosh on the trust in widnes board.
plus i think its funny you all seem to think that players leaving is a big rumour, seen a list of contracts my !!
I personally think Thacks is a better half back that JD he does better at 9.
Unsure over thacks future at widnes but if he doesn't sign for SL club he should stay put as should a few others. JD can leave for all i care.
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| Quote ="J20"Ah right, cheers for info! Hope all goes through then! Have they just always had that land like?
AMBITION is a tough one! Look at Footy everyone talks about going to Citeh for their 'ambition' question what 'AMBITION' do they have any different to other clubs? Especially top4? To be the best club side in the World and a global brand???
Ambition ahs to be paired with realsim IMO and that's where Widnes would come out on top atm!'"
OK last bit on this because i think we've done it to death - but there's the crux - the "at the moment" comment!
Ambition isn't in the here and now. It is future tense. And that's where Fev have plenty of ambition for the future. But it's slow sustainable growth. Not everything now that can't be sustained ad infinitim.
I would suggest that Fev and Widnes have similar aspirations. The difference being Widnes are at a stronger position than fev at the mo in terms of crowd numbers and facilities and potential for growth.
Should that deter a championship player signing for a rival, because of their aspiarations/starting point??? I wouldn't have thought so.
I'd rather talk about the match or the finish to this season tho. I wouldn't like to take bets on the eventual winner. And the team that finishes top has absolutely no guarantee of an easy ride this year.
I don't think Fax will now finish top. I have a feeling Barrow will. But any team place 1-6 would fancy their chances in the play-offs. And I was very sceptical about them on their inception. They've proved to be great.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Quote ="J20"
Ive noticed you also write some tosh on the trust in widnes board.
plus i think its funny you all seem to think that players leaving is a big rumour, seen a list of contracts my booty !!
I personally think Thacks is a better half back that JD he does better at 9.
Unsure over thacks future at widnes but if he doesn't sign for SL club he should stay put as should a few others. JD can leave for all i care.'" '"
1 - like?
2 - why is your word gospel? Those Out of contarct yea, those not no, Smith etc? It aint doom and gloom some will come, some will go!
3 - Exactly! I'd like to see JD stay but it prob best for him to move (can't see him back in SL) and club (FT wage etc).
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| Quote ="J20"Quote ="JAMIE86"
1 - like?
2 - why is your word gospel? Those Out of contarct yea, those not no, Smith etc? It aint doom and gloom some will come, some will go!
3 - Exactly! I'd like to see JD stay but it prob best for him to move (can't see him back in SL) and club (FT wage etc).'" '"
well your obv called J20 on there read back and read your posts i'm not going on that site again its full of people who THINK they know things!!
can't be bothered to argue the case with you, i've just been right in the past.... plus i know ppl.
i leave you in believing what you like....
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Quote ="J20"
well your obv called J20 on there read back and read your posts i'm not going on that site again its full of people who THINK they know things!!
can't be bothered to argue the case with you, i've just been right in the past.... plus i know ppl.
i leave you in believing what you like....'" '"
You've been right in the past and you know people? How interesting.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Quote ="J20"
well your obv called J20 on there read back and read your posts i'm not going on that site again its full of people who THINK they know things!!
can't be bothered to argue the case with you, i've just been right in the past.... plus i know ppl.
i leave you in believing what you like....'" '"
Where did I say I wasn't?
You just like arguing with yourself mate! As I say on Dufy thread 1 min you've 'heard it to' the next you know it's a fact! Give over muppet!
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well your obv called J20 on there read back and read your posts i'm not going on that site again its full of people who THINK they know things!!
can't be bothered to argue the case with you, i've just been right in the past.... plus i know ppl.
i leave you in believing what you like....'" '"
I don't know who Jamie is but he was certanly on here first to tell us about Loz being released and Hall coming on loan
So he is in the loop so to speak
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I don't know who Jamie is but he was certanly on here first to tell us about Loz being released and Hall coming on loan
So he is in the loop so to speak'" '"
THANKYOU
J20 your the muppet not me !!!
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THANKYOU
J20 your the muppet not me !!!'" '"
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| Quote ="J20"Ah right, cheers for info! Hope all goes through then! Have they just always had that land like?
AMBITION is a tough one! Look at Footy everyone talks about going to Citeh for their 'ambition' question what 'AMBITION' do they have any different to other clubs? Especially top4? To be the best club side in the World and a global brand???
Ambition ahs to be paired with realsim IMO and that's where Widnes would come out on top atm!'"
Rovers have always had the land, the problem was a lot was green belt. We now though have a very ambitious board who think they have turned a corner negotiating with the council regards green belt. The Rovers project is not some fantasy so no i would argue you dont come on top, as you certainly didnt Sunday
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this should explain all, dont forget your not dealing with a 2 bit club here, we are the Famous Featherstone Rovers a club that have won every majour honour and had a dozen crowds bigger than the population, no club in the world will EVER beat that
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this should explain all, dont forget your not dealing with a 2 bit club here, we are the Famous Featherstone Rovers a club that have won every majour honour and had a dozen crowds bigger than the population, no club in the world will EVER beat that
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this should explain all, dont forget your not dealing with a 2 bit club here, we are the Famous Featherstone Rovers a club that have won every majour honour and had a dozen crowds bigger than the population, no club in the world will EVER beat that'"
Like a World Club Challenge?
Wasn't arguing just curious myself like!
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