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| Quote ="Pepe"He's bigger and more experienced than what we have. Our biggerst disappointments have been the youngsters we have in the pack from other clubs' academies. Two of our regular ex academy pack men have been suspended, hence Jon Grayshon here on a months loan.
You can take the mickey out of our youngsters when you can actually bring some through yourself.
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Im not taking the mickey out of them at all - im sure they are all good lads. But there not ready for your team at the moment in your opinion.
And we currently have players in our side that came through the academy.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Maybe...but will they be ready in time to put you in a position to apply for SL?'"
You struggled against us with half a team of them, so you tell me?
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| Quote ="Pepe"You struggled against us with half a team of them, so you tell me?'"
You tell me - we won and it would appear you were at your peak at that time - judging by your results after that game.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"You tell me - we won and it would appear you were at your peak at that time - judging by your results after that game.'"
So you obviously rate them then.
You only just won that game and you know it. If the ref hadn't penalised Ostick for reefing - which he clearly didn't - we probably would have won. As it was, you scored from that penalty.
That must make our youngsters pretty good. I even seen a few on your board wanting to sign Flynn.
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| Quote ="Pepe"So you obviously rate them then.
You only just won that game and you know it. If the ref hadn't penalised Ostick for reefing - which he clearly didn't - we probably would have won. As it was, you scored from that penalty.
That must make our youngsters pretty good. I even seen a few on your board wanting to sign Flynn.
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Ifs and buts blah blah whine whine -
it would appear by your comments and the results since that they are not good enough or not ready - Flynn looks a good prospect i will give you. But thats only one player - We have one in Andy Bowman who looks a good player so thats one all - apart from one of our best players being an old academy product as well.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Ifs and buts blah blah whine whine -
it would appear by your comments and the results since that they are not good enough or not ready - Flynn looks a good prospect i will give you. But thats only one player - We have one in Andy Bowman who looks a good player so thats one all
- apart from one of our best players being an old academy product as well.'"
No we have a few who'll be at our club for some time.
Most of your best players are old.
We also have some more good 'uns coming through, unlike you.
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| Quote ="Pepe"No we have a few who'll be at our club for some time.
Most of your best players are old.
We also have some more good 'uns coming through, unlike you.
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Are they? which ones are they then?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Are they? which ones are they then?'"
Frank Watene 32
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There's a lot hovering around the 29 mark too, who aren't exactly long term prospects. With no academy in place, you will be totally reliant on other clubs to get replacements.
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| Sam Thompson looked okay at Hull KR last night.
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| Quote ="richardviking"Sam Thompson looked okay at Hull KR last night.
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I wouldn't be concerned about him. Although I didn't see the game, many who did were of a different opinion.
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| Quote ="Pepe"Frank Watene 32
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There's a lot hovering around the 29 mark too, who aren't exactly long term prospects. With no academy in place, you will be totally reliant on other clubs to get replacements.'"
Well if you think them three as good as they are, are our best players then you are deluded.
so will you if the majority of the academy players arent going to be good enough or ready enough for next year.
Question for you - if you dont manage to tick any boxes on the playing field for a SL licence - next years squad - do you think it will be mainly full of lads for your academy team? Or will you be looking at getting in proven players?
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| This guy is hilarious... he has all the perspective of someone living in a box.
My mentioning your all or nothing mentality this year stems from the fact that you decided to get rid of your academy sides in order to pump the money into the first team. A fact no-one quibbles with on your board.
If you need to run a team as strong next year you will need the same finances and probably won't be able to run your academy again meaning that you won't tick that box which in the opinion of many means that you won't be flavour of the month with the RFL. Youth structures are important to them in terms of you developing players for Bradford, Leeds, Huddersfield and and for us to develop players for Saints, Warrington and Wigan.
As for our young players the likes of Saints and Warrington were and are sniffing around them presently in terms of Ostick and Flynn, so they consider them good enough. Yates is quality and will be fanastic with a few more seasons under his belt but managing their confidence is paramount. We have tried throwing players into the first team and getting them to play every match and it doesn't do them any good.
Wilkinson is a man renowned for developing youth players so we'll trust his opinion over yours any day of the week.
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory":1p1aiapvThis guy is hilarious... :1p1aiapvhe has all the perspective of someone living in a box.
My mentioning your all or nothing mentality this year stems from the fact that you decided to get rid of your academy sides in order to pump the money into the first team. A fact no-one quibbles with on your board.
:1p1aiapvIf:1p1aiapv you need to run a team as strong next year you will need the same finances and :1p1aiapvprobably won't be able to run your academy again :1p1aiapvmeaning that you won't tick that box which in the opinion of many means that you won't be flavour of the month with the RFL. Youth structures are important to them in terms of you developing players for Bradford, Leeds, Huddersfield and and for us to develop players for Saints, Warrington and Wigan.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Not at all mate jus replying to others.'"
Exactly, you have the same disease as littlerich (wannabe Widnes fans)
Get in line as we have a big waiting list.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"This guy is hilarious... he has all the perspective of someone living in a box.
My mentioning your all or nothing mentality this year stems from the fact that you decided to get rid of your academy sides in order to pump the money into the first team. A fact no-one quibbles with on your board.
If you need to run a team as strong next year you will need the same finances and probably won't be able to run your academy again meaning that you won't tick that box which in the opinion of many means that you won't be flavour of the month with the RFL. Youth structures are important to them in terms of you developing players for Bradford, Leeds, Huddersfield and and for us to develop players for Saints, Warrington and Wigan.
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Unlike youreself who comes across as an unknowledgable bore.
Ah probably wont be able to - so thats your professional insider knowledge is it? Or are you just guessing as per usual. And dont worry about our box ticking...i think you have more than enough to concern yourself with at Widnes
But please do tell - where are you getting this information from?'"
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My belief that you won't be able to run an academy next year is based on the fact that you haven't been able to this time due to you using most of your money on the first team. That information has come from your board and your fans.
Not quite sure where you are going to get the extra money from next year if you have to use the money to keep as strong a first team which is why I used the word probably...
Unknowledgable... hardly.. a bore... possibly... but I'd rather be that than short-sighted and ignorant which is what I accuse you of being..
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Exactly, you have the same disease as littlerich (wannabe Widnes fans)
Get in line as we have a big waiting list.'"
Littlerich is beyond help im afraid - he is already living over in the darkside. I like seeing whats on your board though - gets a bit rubbish everything running smoothly like it does at fax at the moment.
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My belief that you won't be able to run an academy next year is based on the fact that you haven't been able to this time due to you using most of your money on the first team. That information has come from your board and your fans.
Not quite sure where you are going to get the extra money from next year if you have to use the money to keep as strong a first team which is why I used the word probably...
Unknowledgable... hardly.. a bore... possibly... but I'd rather be that than short-sighted and ignorant which is what I accuse you of being..
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You accusations are just like your opions...worthless.
You saying "my belief" "probably" oh well it must be true then.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"You accusations are just like your opions...worthless.
You saying "my belief" "probably" oh well it must be true then.'"
It's all based on what your fans are saying... take it up with them.. you offer no argument to the contrary I've noticed.
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"It's all based on what your fans are saying... take it up with them.. you offer no argument to the contrary I've noticed.
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I think you will find theres about 8 pages of arguments on here. And i havent seen any of the fax fans saying that. Maybe you can point of the posts to me.
Oh....you "probably" wont be able to.
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