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| Sounds like Shaul's injury might not be a bad one. Any insight on who might be back for this one from the current list of 9 which I think is as follows in estimated time left to return:
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Top 3 at least should be back I'd hope, obviously Bowden's done for the season.
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| I predict we'll win this one and Rovers at home.
Can see us losing our two remaining away fixtures and against Saints at the KCOM which will leave us far to much ground to make up to reach a semi.
I won't be too disheartened.
We have performed admirably in adversity.
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| Talanoa said yesterday he is hoping to get the go ahead to start running next week but is still a few weeks away.
Sneyd targeting the Rover's game.
Westerman, they are not sure about and monitoring, I have not read anything recently about Griffin and Abdul
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Talanoa said yesterday he is hoping to get the go ahead to start running next week but is still a few weeks away.
Sneyd targeting the Rover's game.
Westerman, they are not sure about and monitoring, I have not read anything recently about Griffin and Abdul'"
Cheers. Hopefully Taylor & Connor come through unscathed, then 6 missing, not too bad compared to other weeks.
Shaul
Faraimo
Tuimavave
Connor
Miloudi
Kelly
Harris
Green
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Manu
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| we need to get a run going if we are to make the top4, gonna be hard but it can be done, get a few players back and imo we have a chance,
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| we simply don't have the forward power, and we are playing three players who have gone a season too far in Mini, Manu and Washy.
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| Don't agree on Manu, think he still has a lot to offer and plays enough games to justify his salary.
Mini needs to be spelled IMO more, not sure if we should keep him.
No surprise we don't have the fire power when 5 players who would be in the forwards are out injured.
I'd be looking at a new forward and then playing Griffin in the pack next season (And possible this year, depending on injures).
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| Quote ="Dave K."Don't agree on Manu, think he still has a lot to offer and plays enough games to justify his salary.
Mini needs to be spelled IMO more, not sure if we should keep him.
No surprise we don't have the fire power when 5 players who would be in the forwards are out injured.
I'd be looking at a new forward and then playing Griffin in the pack next season (And possible this year, depending on injures).'"
Manu may play many games, but what does he actually do in those games? 7 times across the line in 2 years?
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"Manu may play many games, but what does he actually do in those games? 7 times across the line in 2 years?'"
There's a bit more to a player's effectiveness than just scoring tries. You'll be telling us we should sign Ryan Shaw next.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"There's a bit more to a player's effectiveness than just scoring tries. You'll be telling us we should sign Ryan Shaw next.'"
Not when said player is a winger, I think he's a good, just not the level we need to push for a GF, but injuries have played a huge part this season
I still think we can finish 5/6, teams having a game in hand could be a blessing or a curse. Us just failing in the CC could work in our favour.
We have to beat Widnes, they are not a good side.
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"yes, if he was second row...
I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he has little pace.'"
Troll alert.
Are we taking about Sika Manu?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Troll alert.
Are we taking about Sika Manu?'"
I'm no troll, and yes, talking Sika Manu. It's called opinion.
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"Manu may play many games, but what does he actually do in those games? 7 times across the line in 2 years?'"
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| Quote ="DGM"'"
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I think he is right, Our Full back Danny Houghton hasn't scored enough trys this year, I'd send him out on DR.
p.s, I think Standee is back.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I think he is right, Our Full back Danny Houghton hasn't scored enough trys this year, I'd send him out on DR.
p.s, I think Standee is back.'"
Houghton isn't here to score.
As for your second comment, no idea what/who you are talking about.
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"I'm no troll, and yes, talking Sika Manu. It's called opinion.'"
Ok, so you know Sika Manu is a second rower, yes??
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| Quote ="Dave K."I think he is right, Our Full back Danny Houghton hasn't scored enough trys this year, I'd send him out on DR.
p.s, I think Standee is back.'"
tbf even standee would know he is a second rower
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| Quote ="Dave K."I think he is right, Our Full back Danny Houghton hasn't scored enough trys this year, I'd send him out on DR.
p.s, I think Standee is back.'"
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| Think Saturday showed what we miss without Sika Manu. He is still an asset to the team but unfortunately due to the bulk of injuries we've had this season the likes of Manu & Mini have really had to take on a lot of extra work on the field and its told which isn't unexpected. We lost Ellis to retirement but unfortunately lost Hadley for a bit. Also losing the likes of Fonua who helped with the workload and the fact Faraimo has been binned, knocked out, suspended etc again hasn't helped along with the loss of Bowden, Griffin & Talanoa who all chip in with the work load.
Manu is not a try machine never has been or would be as thats not his role but he is certainly an important and fundamental cog in the 17.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Think Saturday showed what we miss without Sika Manu. He is still an asset to the team but unfortunately due to the bulk of injuries we've had this season the likes of Manu & Mini have really had to take on a lot of extra work on the field and its told which isn't unexpected. We lost Ellis to retirement but unfortunately lost Hadley for a bit. Also losing the likes of Fonua who helped with the workload and the fact Faraimo has been binned, knocked out, suspended etc again hasn't helped along with the loss of Bowden, Griffin & Talanoa who all chip in with the work load.
Manu is not a try machine never has been or would be as thats not his role but he is certainly an important and fundamental cog in the 17.'"
Yep, some people watch the game but don't pick up on certain elements of it. What Manu brings to the side allows others to flourish and do the eye-catching stuff, like scoring tries.
Also worth remembering that on top of the workload forced upon him this year due to injuries as you mention, Manu captained his side in the World Cup all the way up to a brutal semi-final, whilst most of our lot got a well-earned rest after a bloody long domestic season. I'm not sure he's been 100% at any point this season.
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| Quote ="DGM"Yep, some people watch the game but don't pick up on certain elements of it. What Manu brings to the side allows others to flourish and do the eye-catching stuff, like scoring tries.
Also worth remembering that on top of the workload forced upon him this year due to injuries as you mention, Manu captained his side in the World Cup all the way up to a brutal semi-final, whilst most of our lot got a well-earned rest after a bloody long domestic season. I'm not sure he's been 100% at any point this season.'"
Fair observations, we will have to see how the next few games go. We are really missing Sneyd and Ellis was simply beyond replaceable.
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| People said Ellis didn't score enough. Some people don't understand our game right well.
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