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Just wondering how many people, like myself, have stopped reading and posting on this message board in the past 12 months? (Yes, I get the paradoxical nature of the statement...)
The banal rhetoric and points scoring exercises that appear in every thread have become predictable, cliched and boring as the usual suspects continue to embarrass themselves in true keyboard warrior style.
My advice to those responsible...
Buy a dog, read a book, check out some internet "sites", go for a walk or maybe consider taking your partner away for a dirty weekend.
You never know, it may just take you away from your keyboard, relieve you from your pent up frustration and remove your need to "post for effect" to gain the attention you so desparately crave.
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I was going to post something similar this week. It just becomes tiresome trying to find valid points amongst the bickering. Many users have left the forum which is a shame. I can predict tonight that Mrs B will say something pessimistic (to get a bite), Knockers Bump will react to it, Jake and Dave K will then react to Knockers Bump (I actually like Dave K's and Jake's input on here apart from when they are chewing the fat with Knockers Bump)
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I agree with all of the above.
I very rarely post now, it's such a closed shop on here between the usual suspects feeding off each others egos or usually arguing with Bumpy.
The site has become predictable and boring and so many of the regular posters have since disappeared.
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Yeah I agree. They're a bunch of to$$ers
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You can block posters you don't like but unfortunately you can't block the responses to those people.
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its the same right across rlfans i'm afraid. other more prominent forms of social media have much weakened what used to be a brilliant platform for discussion.
and by the way the trolls and warriors have always been there but in the past they were more entertaining
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| Quote ="spegs"Just wondering how many people, like myself, have stopped reading and posting on this message board in the past 12 months? (Yes, I get the paradoxical nature of the statement...)
The banal rhetoric and points scoring exercises that appear in every thread have become predictable, cliched and boring as the usual suspects continue to embarrass themselves in true keyboard warrior style.
My advice to those responsible...
Buy a dog, read a book, check out some internet "sites", go for a walk or maybe consider taking your partner away for a dirty weekend.
You never know, it may just take you away from your keyboard, relieve you from your pent up frustration and remove your need to "post for effect" to gain the attention you so desparately crave.'"
Yep, your right, let's just give a free ride, to one poster primarily, who is micro-critical of the majority of everything the club does and only wants to spread constant negativity.
If you want him to go unchallenged, that's your prerogative.
Others may see it differently to you. |
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Yep, your right, let's just give a free ride, to one poster primarily, who is micro-critical of the majority of everything the club does and only wants to spread constant negativity.
If you want him to go unchallenged, that's your prerogative.
Others may see it differently to you.'"
I think the irony of posting a thread about not reading threads tells us all we need to know, bumpy should have been banned a long time ago, along with seb. But it's what a discussion forum is all about.
I don't like the adverts, or RLNewsHound, or CTSports comments, but it's what RLFans does. Last time I checked nobody forced anybody to come on the site.
It's simple, if you don't want to read what people think, don't log on.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I think the irony of posting a thread about not reading threads tells us all we need to know, bumpy should have been banned a long time ago, along with seb. But it's what a discussion forum is all about.
I don't like the adverts, or RLNewsHound, or CTSports comments, but it's what RLFans does. Last time I checked nobody forced anybody to come on the site.
It's simple, if you don't want to read what people think, don't log on.
You keep bumpy in check mate, along with Jake's help, this all runs along pretty well.'"
That's a poor attitude to the issue IMO.
One poster has made a valid point to start the thread. Others have immediately followed up to say they feel the same. I used to post more regularly but don't see the point now as it usually gets lost in the shuffle of the same old rhetoric nonsense between the same few posters.
If you adopt the attitude "if you don't like it, don't bother," then people won't bother. It's a lazy kop out. The idea of a forum is to discuss a range of views and at the moment people aren't feeling that is happening.
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As Iv'e been named on here, ill defend myself, I maybe shouldn't react as much as I do, but I feel that I have to to defend the club and Radford, I don't mind balance but he offers very little. When I respond I don't insult him, I answer his points in in a respectful as possible manner, most of the time once he has no answer he doesn't respond and then repost the points a few weeks later.
Still a few of us on here that want to talk about rugby, hopefully that will continue, plenty of other platforms to discuss Hull if you don't like it, the Facebook group is certainly a place I stay well clear of, as it's awful, some real clueless people asking the same questions each week
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| Quote ="Dave K."As Iv'e been named on here, ill defend myself, I maybe shouldn't react as much as I do, but I feel that I have to to defend the club and Radford, I don't mind balance but he offers very little. When I respond I don't insult him, I answer his points in in a respectful as possible manner, most of the time once he has no answer he doesn't respond and then repost the points a few weeks later.
Still a few of us on here that want to talk about rugby, hopefully that will continue, plenty of other platforms to discuss Hull if you don't like it, the Facebook group is certainly a place I stay well clear of, as it's awful, some real clueless people asking the same questions each week'"
I'm sure the club will survive without you defending it, have hull fc personally asked you to defend any form of criticism. The problem in my opinion is the likes of you , who thinks your own opinion is actually fact and if anyone doesn't agree or as a negative view, then that opinion is completely invalid. You and a few others try making your opinions more valid by pretending your "in the know" it's laughable and that's why I'll personally continue to read , because it's quite funny at times |
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"I'm sure the club will survive without you defending it, have hull fc personally asked you to defend any form of criticism. The problem in my opinion is the likes of you , who thinks your own opinion is actually fact and if anyone doesn't agree or as a negative view, then that opinion is completely invalid. You and a few others try making your opinions more valid by pretending your "in the know" it's laughable and that's why I'll personally continue to read , because it's quite funny at times'"
Yes, Pearson contacted me personally and asked me to defend the club.
I've never claimed to be in the know bad have never claimed to know all the facts, just my opinion like yours, Jake and others.
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| Quote ="Dave K."As Iv'e been named on here, ill defend myself, I maybe shouldn't react as much as I do, but I feel that I have to to defend the club and Radford, I don't mind balance but he offers very little. When I respond I don't insult him, I answer his points in in a respectful as possible manner, most of the time once he has no answer he doesn't respond and then repost the points a few weeks later.
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Which tells you all you need to know.
There's no point in responding, and the problem is too many people (the same people) do. It's like an addiction. Why respond when he'll not pay any attention and eventually just do the same again? All it does is flood the board, which is what he wants.
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| Quote ="the artist"its the same right across rlfans i'm afraid. other more prominent forms of social media have much weakened what used to be a brilliant platform for discussion.
and by the way the trolls and warriors have always been there but in the past they were more entertaining'"
This.
Social media has reduced the amount of posters and its become dull. I dont think the site is very user friendly though it is slow and hard to use on both my android phone and apple Ipad which id imagine is the main way people access the site these days.
As for the posters themselves its long been a cuddle crew on here. They wouldent have a bad word said about the Hetheringtons, Agar, Gentle...the club was blindly backed whatever it did. The only thing the cuddle crew got right was backing Radford, about 1 sucess in 15 years. |
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so trying to support your club through thick and thin makes you part of the cuddle crew as you call them,
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| Quote ="hull2524"so trying to support your club through thick and thin makes you part of the cuddle crew as you call them,'"
You can loyally support and still question how things are being run. The late 00s and early 10s saw the club being underfunded and ran into the ground, finishing 8th with an embarrassment in the playoffs if we were lucky...and some just had their blinkers on and wouldent criticise anything. And threads or posts question things were shot down by the regulars on here.
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Quote ="UllFC"This.
Social media has reduced the amount of posters and its become dull. I dont think the site is very user friendly though it is slow and hard to use on both my android phone and apple Ipad which id imagine is the main way people access the site these days.
As for the posters themselves its long been a cuddle crew on here. They wouldent have a bad word said about the Hetheringtons, Agar, Gentle...the club was blindly backed whatever it did. The only thing the cuddle crew got right was backing Radford, about 1 sucess in 15 years.'"
In a nutshell, yes.
The reduction of activity on here has little to do with the tit for tat stuff.... frankly that has always been on here... at it's peak the Hull and Rovers banter was wildly out of control at times - the reason is technology. I've run several forums, the topics are things like recruitment, overseas travel... that doesn't attract that sort of banter, and the activity has completely tailed off there as well.
Forums still have their place, sites like Redit are very popular. But here you can see new media against old. Websites like this are covered in terrible advert boxes, heavy web scripts and forms, embedded elements etc., while not offering a dynamic experience like modern social media sites. Same reason newspaper websites are failing, I can't even get on the awful experience that is the Hull Daily Mail website. It's failed to modernise, which is understandable, it's a free website at the end of the day but that's the reason imo. I still come on here (obviously) as I prefer the more structured nature of the discussion and I think it still has it's place.
On a side note, I can't believe I joined this site in 2002! More than 15 years ago!  I think that was about the time they took the forum off the HullFC.com website.
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Quote ="UllFC"This.
Social media has reduced the amount of posters and its become dull. I dont think the site is very user friendly though it is slow and hard to use on both my android phone and apple Ipad which id imagine is the main way people access the site these days.
As for the posters themselves its long been a cuddle crew on here. They wouldent have a bad word said about the Hetheringtons, Agar, Gentle...the club was blindly backed whatever it did. The only thing the cuddle crew got right was backing Radford, about 1 sucess in 15 years.'"
In a nutshell, yes.
The reduction of activity on here has little to do with the tit for tat stuff.... frankly that has always been on here... at it's peak the Hull and Rovers banter was wildly out of control at times - the reason is technology. I've run several forums, the topics are things like recruitment, overseas travel... that doesn't attract that sort of banter, and the activity has completely tailed off there as well.
Forums still have their place, sites like Redit are very popular. But here you can see new media against old. Websites like this are covered in terrible advert boxes, heavy web scripts and forms, embedded elements etc., while not offering a dynamic experience like modern social media sites. Same reason newspaper websites are failing, I can't even get on the awful experience that is the Hull Daily Mail website. It's failed to modernise, which is understandable, it's a free website at the end of the day but that's the reason imo. I still come on here (obviously) as I prefer the more structured nature of the discussion and I think it still has it's place.
On a side note, I can't believe I joined this site in 2002! More than 15 years ago! I think that was about the time they took the forum off the HullFC.com website.
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| Quote ="UllFC"You can loyally support and still question how things are being run. The late 00s and early 10s saw the club being underfunded and ran into the ground, finishing 8th with an embarrassment in the playoffs if we were lucky...and some just had their blinkers on and wouldent criticise anything. And threads or posts question things were shot down by the regulars on here.
We may not have set the world alight in 2017 so far, but at least I have faith my cash is being used in the best interests of the club these days.'"
The counterpoint of course is that the weight of negativity against a club maintaining SL status for 20 odd years despite lack of a generous benefactor to sling in £500k a year and with no alternative ownership being put forward was excessive and warranted balance. 6 major finals probably puts us in the top 5 successwise, which is probably commensurate with our income seeing that we don't have a Lenegan or Davy. I criticised Rule's persistence with Agar (to him directly) and Pearson's early decision-making. We've had our best couple of years in a generation and when this sort of context is presented it's dismissed as cuddle crew apologism.  |
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| Quote ="UllFC"This.
Social media has reduced the amount of posters and its become dull. I dont think the site is very user friendly though it is slow and hard to use on both my android phone and apple Ipad which id imagine is the main way people access the site these days.
As for the posters themselves its long been a cuddle crew on here. They wouldent have a bad word said about the Hetheringtons, Agar, Gentle...the club was blindly backed whatever it did. The only thing the cuddle crew got right was backing Radford, about 1 sucess in 15 years.'"
The people who (correctly) called you out after your embarrassingly premature topic in 2016 saying the end was nigh? |
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I think the irony of posting a thread about not reading threads tells us all we need to know, bumpy should have been banned a long time ago, along with seb. But it's what a discussion forum is all about.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I think the irony of posting a thread about not reading threads tells us all we need to know, bumpy should have been banned a long time ago, along with seb. But it's what a discussion forum is all about.
I don't like the adverts, or RLNewsHound, or CTSports comments, but it's what RLFans does. Last time I checked nobody forced anybody to come on the site.
It's simple, if you don't want to read what people think, don't log on.
You keep bumpy in check mate, along with Jake's help, this all runs along pretty well.'"
Banning someone for having an opinion?!?! Really??? Welcome to 1984 - You're George Orwell and I claim my £5!! |
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| Quote ="mk_fc"Banning someone for having an opinion?!?! Really??? Welcome to 1984 - You're George Orwell and I claim my £5!!'"
To be fair to him he was banned for similar.
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Quote ="Bal"In a nutshell, yes.
The reduction of activity on here has little to do with the tit for tat stuff.... frankly that has always been on here... at it's peak the Hull and Rovers banter was wildly out of control at times - the reason is technology. I've run several forums, the topics are things like recruitment, overseas travel... that doesn't attract that sort of banter, and the activity has completely tailed off there as well.
Forums still have their place, sites like Redit are very popular. But here you can see new media against old. Websites like this are covered in terrible advert boxes, heavy web scripts and forms, embedded elements etc., while not offering a dynamic experience like modern social media sites. Same reason newspaper websites are failing, I can't even get on the awful experience that is the Hull Daily Mail website. It's failed to modernise, which is understandable, it's a free website at the end of the day but that's the reason imo. I still come on here (obviously) as I prefer the more structured nature of the discussion and I think it still has it's place.
On a side note, I can't believe I joined this site in 2002! More than 15 years ago!
I think that was about the time they took the forum off the HullFC.com website.
If you fancy a blast from the past - web.archive.org/web/200004071756 ... fc.com:80/'"
i can well remember the day i first signed up for the forum (the old one on hullfc.com) i had to try to defend the majority of fans after the infamous cup semi final at the mcalpine along with a few FC fans in the face of what seemed like the rest of the RL world. i liked the old newsgroup best of all, there was some top banter on there |
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The reduction of activity on here has little to do with the tit for tat stuff.... frankly that has always been on here... at it's peak the Hull and Rovers banter was wildly out of control at times - the reason is technology. I've run several forums, the topics are things like recruitment, overseas travel... that doesn't attract that sort of banter, and the activity has completely tailed off there as well.
Forums still have their place, sites like Redit are very popular. But here you can see new media against old. Websites like this are covered in terrible advert boxes, heavy web scripts and forms, embedded elements etc., while not offering a dynamic experience like modern social media sites. Same reason newspaper websites are failing, I can't even get on the awful experience that is the Hull Daily Mail website. It's failed to modernise, which is understandable, it's a free website at the end of the day but that's the reason imo. I still come on here (obviously) as I prefer the more structured nature of the discussion and I think it still has it's place.
On a side note, I can't believe I joined this site in 2002! More than 15 years ago!
I think that was about the time they took the forum off the HullFC.com website.
If you fancy a blast from the past - web.archive.org/web/200004071756 ... fc.com:80/'"
i can well remember the day i first signed up for the forum (the old one on hullfc.com) i had to try to defend the majority of fans after the infamous cup semi final at the mcalpine along with a few FC fans in the face of what seemed like the rest of the RL world. i liked the old newsgroup best of all, there was some top banter on there | |
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| Quote ="the artist"i can well remember the day i first signed up for the forum (the old one on hullfc.com) i had to try to defend the majority of fans after the infamous cup semi final at the mcalpine along with a few FC fans in the face of what seemed like the rest of the RL world. i liked the old newsgroup best of all, there was some top banter on there'"
you're going back to the dial up modem days (which was still faster than this bloated site).
Posters who had a bit of fun.
As CforCuckoo said, I was banned in the past for having an opinion, but I admit at times I was unnecessarily blunt. But that was in the days of other moderators who moderated based on personal opinion, not the AUP, now we hardly see a moderator because they are professional people who can't spend all day on line.
If spegs is unhappy I suggest he/she just doesn't log in, nobody forces you to.
If admin don't sort the adverts out then RLFans will die, I don't come on here for dating, holidays, life insurance etc. I don't need an entire fixture list clogging up my screen. Even the Sin Bin logo has a referee with a red card, not yellow. The whole site has lost it's "core values" |
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I think that was about the time they took the forum off the HullFC.com website.
