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| another indication of how great Radford is(n't)
all the talent, needs a good coach. I hope he leaves and ends up winning in the NRL, will prove that Radford should be driving a coach, not coaching a side.
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| Quote ="Standee"another indication of how great Radford is(n't)
all the talent, needs a good coach. I hope he leaves and ends up winning in the NRL, will prove that Radford should be driving a coach, not coaching a side.'"
Every subject that comes out of Hull FC you find a negative (which is your prerogative ) but seriously I can't remember reading any positive posts from you..
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| Quote ="The Major"Every subject that comes out of Hull FC you find a negative (which is your prerogative ) but seriously I can't remember reading any positive posts from you..'"
Sorry, but can you find a positive in signing a talented young player that needs development, being coached by a pub landlord and then being paid off?
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| To be fair on Radford, he did give him more than a few chances in the first team this year but he simply wasn't up to the standard, especially in defense.
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| Quote ="fcandy"To be fair on Radford, he did give him more than a few chances in the first team this year but he simply wasn't up to the standard, especially in defense.'"
is it the job of the halves to be defensive?
I know for years Horne has tackled everything in sight, but is that the job the halves should be doing?
I just think it's a bit unfair castigating Miller, a young lad, bags of potential, poorly managed/coached.
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| Miller has had a few chances and sadly has shown that he is not (yet) good enough to be an SL half back.
However no-one could accuse him of not trying his best, which is more than can be said for some of our players over the last couple of seasons.
Good luck to him in the rest of his career.
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| Quote ="Standee"is it the job of the halves to be defensive?
I know for years Horne has tackled everything in sight, but is that the job the halves should be doing?
I just think it's a bit unfair castigating Miller, a young lad, bags of potential, poorly managed/coached.'"
I think all players in a team should be able to defend. One weak link at SL level and teams will exploit that link all day long. Ben Crooks another example of this.
Certainly not "castigating" Miller, maybe the coach has got to answer some questions as to why he hasn't progressed. It appears he wasn't up to the standard at West Tigers either. Does that mean he was poorly managed / coached by coaches in Australia as well as Peter Gentle and also Radford? They can't all be poor?
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| Quote ="fcandy"I think all players in a team should be able to defend. One weak link at SL level and teams will exploit that link all day long. Ben Crooks another example of this.
Certainly not "castigating" Miller, maybe the coach has got to answer some questions as to why he hasn't progressed. It appears he wasn't up to the standard at West Tigers either. Does that mean he was poorly managed / coached by coaches in Australia as well as Peter Gentle and also Radford? They can't all be poor?'"
who knows, the guy has talent, more than Naughton.
When you get a young player you have to ask "why are they letting him go"
People are saying that Fitz giving him his backing is a good thing, Fitz did a job for Hull, but we won nothing and he wasn't actually that good, he was a decent player in a bang average side.
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| Shame for the kid, but he's clearly not rated or wanted so probably the best thing is for him to go.
Just did a quick check and we won 5 of the 14 games he played this season (including friendlies) but he hasn't featured since the end of May. After being hung out to dry at Featherstone, I'm surprised he got that far.
Good luck to him in the future.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Good luck to him in the future.'"
Agree, hopefully he'll get a good coach who can utilise his talents.
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| Quote ="Standee"another indication of how great Radford is(n't)
all the talent, needs a good coach. I hope he leaves and ends up winning in the NRL, will prove that Radford should be driving a coach, not coaching a side.'"
He must be kicking himself for missing his chance to showcase all this talent over the last two years. A classic Hull FC half back panic signing. Good luck to the kid I hope he makes the grade elsewhere he certainly always tried when he played but then lots of players do that.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"He must be kicking himself for missing his chance to showcase all this talent over the last two years. A classic Hull FC half back panic signing. Good luck to the kid I hope he makes the grade elsewhere he certainly always tried when he played but then lots of players do that.'"
We shall see, he'll walk away with a few grand in his pocket, as you say, we wish him well.
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| Quote ="Standee"is it the job of the halves to be defensive?
I know for years Horne has tackled everything in sight, but is that the job the halves should be doing?
I just think it's a bit unfair castigating Miller, a young lad, bags of potential, poorly managed/coached.'"
But cant you see, all these posters remember seeing Sterling, Edwards, Gregory, Goulding, Harris, Schofield, Langer, Burrow, Maguire, Lewis, Johns make 50 tackles per game each with none missed.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"But cant you see, all these posters remember seeing Sterling, Edwards, Gregory, Goulding, Harris, Schofield, Langer, Burrow, Maguire, Lewis, Johns make 50 tackles per game each with none missed.
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all these posters have f'g clue about how the game works, they believe in "the collision" and "the wrestle", they've never seen a penalty given for "feeding", most of them never set foot in Boulevard and yet they know everything.
can you imagine Miller if he was coached by Hasler.
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| Quote ="Standee"all these posters have f'g clue about how the game works, they believe in "the collision" and "the wrestle", they've never seen a penalty given for "feeding", most of them never set foot in Boulevard and yet they know everything.
can you imagine Miller if he was coached by Hasler.'"
I cant believe i missed Hasler off, (to be fair i tried to avoid Hull players in the list)
Even Miller coached by Wayne Portlock would be much better!!
Maybe it'll be better in the second stanza
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Maybe it'll be better in the second stanza'"
am sure he'd go for the one pointer and someone would be fuming
Sky, ruined true RL and created a generation of degenerates.
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| Quote ="Standee"am sure he'd go for the one pointer and someone would be fuming
Sky, ruined true RL and created a generation of degenerates.'"
I dont recall the 82 replay final being recounted for its OPTA stats
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| Quote ="Standee"
People are saying that Fitz giving him his backing is a good thing, Fitz did a job for Hull, but we won nothing and he wasn't actually that good, he was a decent player in a bang average side.'"
I was more alluding to the fact that Fitzgibbon was seen as a model professional and very highly respected by his fellow pro's and coach's he played for so if he give's Naughton big raps then it can't be a bad thing, can it?
Whether the lad is good enough to make it is an entirely different thing.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I was more alluding to the fact that Fitzgibbon was seen as a model professional and very highly respected by his fellow pro's and coach's he played for so if he give's Naughton big raps then it can't be a bad thing, can it?
Whether the lad is good enough to make it is an entirely different thing.'"
Not a bad thing, no, but surely if he was "all that", he'd be staying in the NRL?
Hope he goes well, would be great to be proven wrong for once.
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| Quote ="Standee"all these posters have f'g clue about how the game works, they believe in "the collision" and "the wrestle", they've never seen a penalty given for "feeding", most of them never set foot in Boulevard and yet they know everything.
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More drivel from our resident Wayne Bennett.
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| Quote ="Standee"Agree, hopefully he'll get a good coach who can utilise his talents.'"
Remind us what these talents are exactly?
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| Quote ="Standee"Not a bad thing, no, but surely if he was "all that", he'd be staying in the NRL?'"
Good point. I said exactly the same when Miller signed.
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| Millers hence wests binning him after very few games, he comes to Hull and is again, best thing for all parties that Miller leaves and if he does go on to better things then good luck to him but I highly doubt that will happen
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| i'll be sad to see Milky go.
It aint panned out though and writings been on the wall since Mr Gentle got bulletted.
In fact, Milky and Migraine Man are the reasons Uncle Peter got bulletted.
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