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"Carl Ablett, Tom Briscoe, George Burgess, Sam Burgess, Tom Burgess, Rob Burrow, Josh Charnley, Rangi Chase, Leroy Cudjoe, Liam Farrell, James Graham, Ryan Hall, Zak Hardaker, Chris Hill, Gareth Hock, Michael McIllorum, Lee Mossop, Sean O’Loughlin, James Roby, Kevin Sinfield (captain), Sam Tomkins, Kallum Watkins, Ben Westwood, Gareth Widdop. "
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"Carl Ablett, Tom Briscoe, George Burgess, Sam Burgess, Tom Burgess, Rob Burrow, Josh Charnley, Rangi Chase, Leroy Cudjoe, Liam Farrell, James Graham, Ryan Hall, Zak Hardaker, Chris Hill, Gareth Hock, Michael McIllorum, Lee Mossop, Sean O’Loughlin, James Roby, Kevin Sinfield (captain), Sam Tomkins, Kallum Watkins, Ben Westwood, Gareth Widdop. "
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| Only 2 recognised centres and no Lunt.Will have a
very good pack though.
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| Surprised at Hock's inclusion and Ferris & Crabtree exclusion.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Surprised at Hock's inclusion and Ferris & Crabtree exclusion.'"
Is Crabtree injured or due to have surgery? Otherwise its a poor decision to leave him out.
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| Ferres, Crabtree, Lunt & Ratchford IMO can count themselves as unlucky not to have made it, I imagine a couple of those will be on the 'standby' list.
I think he's got it about right really, which I haven;t said about an England squad for some time.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"Ferres, Crabtree, Lunt & Ratchford IMO can count themselves as unlucky not to have made it, I imagine a couple of those will be on the 'standby' list.
I think he's got it about right really, which I haven;t said about an England squad for some time.'"
And Kirmond.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"Ferres, Crabtree, Lunt & Ratchford IMO can count themselves as unlucky not to have made it, I imagine a couple of those will be on the 'standby' list.
I think he's got it about right really, which I haven;t said about an England squad for some time.'"
agree with you and its a sign of how strong this squad is that we can feel disappointed that the above 4 players have been left out
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| Quote ="the artist"agree with you and its a sign of how strong this squad is that we can feel disappointed that the above 4 players have been left out'"
Exactly.
Those four I mentioned, if they were in ahead four others, we'd be discussing the others being left out.
I think at centre we look quite fragile, but those two are the best we have with Reed beng injured.
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| Turgess instead of Crabtree? Fuck off.
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| Sinfield to rotate the hooking then i think by the look of it. Doesnt look to bad to be honest.
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| Not really, he's named 3 hookers.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not really, he's named 3 hookers.'"
Oops!! Whizzed through it.
The fact we have 3 hookers (plus Sinfield) makes the exlusion of Ferres, Crabtree etc even stranger
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| Sam Tomkins, Zak Hardaker
Tom Briscoe, Josh Charnley, Ryan Hall
Kallum Watkins, Leroy Cudjoe
Kevin Sinfield (captain), Gareth Widdop
Rangi Chase
George Burgess, Tom Burgess, James Graham, Chris Hill, Lee Mossop
James Roby, Rob Burrow, Michael McIllorum,
Carl Ablett, Sam Burgess, Liam Farrell, Gareth Hock, Sean O’Loughlin, Ben Westwood
It's not a badly balanced squad and he's got a few who have utility value.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Only 2 recognised centres and no Lunt.Will have a
very good pack though.'"
Suppose Hardaker can play there but would still have liked another. Still, don't think that's as bad as it couldn't have been.
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| McIllorum above Lunt is a strange one for me. Lunt is by far the better of the two whenever I've seen them play.
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| Quote ="Scadge1"McIllorum above Lunt is a strange one for me. Lunt is by far the better of the two whenever I've seen them play.'"
Lunt and Higham have been the 2 best hookers in SL this season IMO, how McIlorum and Burrow have both got in ahead of both of them is beyond me.
Interesting that season this saw the first all English Dream Team, yet only 4 have made the England squad. There's a few of them who can consider themselves very unlucky IMO.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Sam Tomkins, Zak Hardaker
Tom Briscoe, Josh Charnley, Ryan Hall
Kallum Watkins, Leroy Cudjoe
Kevin Sinfield (captain), Gareth Widdop
Rangi Chase
George Burgess, Tom Burgess, James Graham, Chris Hill, Lee Mossop
James Roby, Rob Burrow, Michael McIllorum,
Carl Ablett, Sam Burgess, Liam Farrell, Gareth Hock, Sean O’Loughlin, Ben Westwood
It's not a badly balanced squad and he's got a few who have utility value.'"
From that squad and all fit I would play
Tompkins
Charnely
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Widdop
Chase
Hill
Roby
Graham
Westwood
Burgess
O Loughlin
Sinfield
G Burgess
Mossop
Hock
Would look so much different with Brough.
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| How does Mc Ilorum get anywhere near any England Squad ???
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| Quote ="Charlie1971"How does Mc Ilorum get anywhere near any England Squad ???'"
We all know why, really. If he was at somewhere like Wakefield or Salford he wouldn't. It's the same for Rob Burrow's inclusion and why Ablett is in but neither Ferres or Kirmond are. Hudds finished top of the pile with a strong English contingent yet get one representative.
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| Burrow is a must for me coming from the bench. His elusiveness and speed will really catch tired defenders out late in games. I would have included Lunt above McIllorum and Crabtree had to be in there. Ferres, Kirmond and Ratchford must have been very close to making the squad. The two players for me that are constantly included when they shouldn't be are Ablett and Jones-Buchanan so at least one hasn't made it.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"We all know why, really. If he was at somewhere like Wakefield or Salford he wouldn't. It's the same for Rob Burrow's inclusion and why Ablett is in but neither Ferres or Kirmond are. Hudds finished top of the pile with a strong English contingent yet get one representative.'"
Ablett can play in the centres and Burrow at half would be my explanation. Still rubbish though.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Ablett can play in the centres and Burrow at half would be my explanation. Still rubbish though.'"
If that was why, Whiting would be a better choice than Ablett. It's who they play for, simple as that.
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| Quote ="Scadge1"McIllorum above Lunt is a strange one for me. Lunt is by far the better of the two whenever I've seen them play.'"
So did you not see them go head to head three weeks ago in the play-offs (meaningful game), where Mcllorum out-classed Lunt?
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