Yes the hoodoo carries on.

Still not got over the Semi final defeat I take it?

Just to say that IMO you did very well to beat Catalans & Warrington and so you very much earned your Wembley appearance.

Today right from the start it didn't look like it was going to happen for you but Wigan played the conditions outstandingly and were formidable opponents.

If Charnley hadn't caught Shaul it might have been a game turner like the Lineham try against Warrington but this time it didn't happen.

For me the big story was the performance of Wigan nothing else. For a team with so much firepower to curtail their attacking instincts and play the conditions in such a disciplined manner was outstanding. They showed that unlike Warrington they are a team for all seasons.

Wigan very worthy winners but made to work hard from first to last.

I just didn't see this thread coming!

how many cup finals have hull lost at wembley though?

A lot more than they have won !!!!

But whats the number?

Leeds have never won a CC at cardiff. Cup finals played there by them - 2. The number is relevant.