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| Great news or is it? Thoughts on this guys and girls?
Seems we are re-negotiating our contract with the SMC on our tenancy agreement. Thought for years it's not been the best i.e. financially for us. But I might be wrong.
Just a thought but in long term will this possibly see offers on tickets cheaper etc? He wants it full!
[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-Negotiations-open-SMC-tenancy-agreement/story-14379035-detail/story.html#comment-2815106Link here[/url
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| Well I always thought we had reworked the deal but if we have not to any real advantage. The original 7500 was based on our average attendances at the Boulevard but now in a half decent season we can muster up nearly double that without too much hassle. So if we can arrange something that is better suited to us then all the better, like you say may even give us opportunities to boost crowds for the "Big" games like Wigan did with the "Big Four" campaign (It was the big something campaign at least).
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| Lets do it, lets have a proper agreement
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Lets get the SL record attendance
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| The initial ground rent of 100k has been increasing by 6% per annum - so for 2012 will stand at about £169k. That 6% figure, by current standards, looks high. It could be argued that 100k was low initially, especially with the first 7.5k in the crowd going 'untaxed' and it was in some ways the equivalent of 'patient capital' - that patience steadily running out. I'd try and get that adjusted downwards if I was AP. Perhaps by offering a one-off jump. If it goes on forever at 6% it looks potentially problematic.
The 7.5k, based on Boulevard attendances, looked generous in 2003/4, but no longer does. It is the SMC's strongest card though and I can't see them giving it up easily. However, AP might be able to get a change, to say 25% of receipts above 3k, that would give him better flexibility.
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| Cap in hand to Mr Allam already? Nice one Lord Faulkner
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Cap in hand to Mr Allam already? Nice one Lord Faulkner'"
you owe me a new monitor
I've just sprayed this one with my drink
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Cap in hand to Mr Allam already? Nice one Lord Faulkner'"
Are we using the cap Rovers used, no because we are not asking for a "soft loan" we are looking at renegotiating a current deal. It may be a strange concept to you lot bit it happens all the time in business when circumstances change.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Lets do it, lets have a proper agreement
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Lets get the SL record attendance'"
Average attendence maybe, but if we didnt get the record with the 1st derby game in Super League, then we wont beat it! What is it anyway??
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Average attendence maybe, but if we didnt get the record with the 1st derby game in Super League, then we wont beat it! What is it anyway??
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25,004 Wigan Saints
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"25,004 Wigan Saints'"
Not possible then. Our capacity is 25,000 without any Stewards.. Never going to happen.
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| Quote ="Roland_R"Not possible then. Our capacity is 25,000 without any Stewards.. Never going to happen.'"
Take that back it's actually: 25,586
But we'll still never reach this due to restrictions.
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| Quote ="Roland_R"Not possible then. Our capacity is 25,000 without any Stewards.. Never going to happen.'"
City had more, with segregation
If the Rovers fans could behave.......
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"City had more, with segregation
If the Rovers fans could behave.......'"
I wonder if chav corner will be made unreserved once again, sounds like you would favour that move?
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| AP mentioned this at the fans forum, he jokingly referred to the fact he set it up in the first place with Shane Richardson.
I didn't get chance to ask what needed to be done for a new deal to happen. I am guessing it has to be equitable for both sides which it could be.
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| Take some of the seating out behind the Sticks then you would get more in
if fans were allowed to stand
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| Quote ="kt170496"Take some of the seating out behind the Sticks then you would get more in
if fans were allowed to stand'"
and break the rules for a football ground??
no thanks, I wanted standing areas when we first built, but I don't think it's a good idea now.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I wonder if chav corner will be made unreserved once again, sounds like you would favour that move?'"
It is this year.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Cap in hand to Mr Allam already? Nice one Lord Faulkner'"
Where did allam's £1m go? The tax man?
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"It is this year.'"
Good news for some!
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The initial ground rent of 100k has been increasing by 6% per annum - so for 2012 will stand at about £169k. That 6% figure, by current standards, looks high. It could be argued that 100k was low initially, especially with the first 7.5k in the crowd going 'untaxed' and it was in some ways the equivalent of 'patient capital' - that patience steadily running out. I'd try and get that adjusted downwards if I was AP. Perhaps by offering a one-off jump. If it goes on forever at 6% it looks potentially problematic.
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For Info Wigan RL paid Whelan £190k in total for the 2010 season (last available accounts) - think it works out about 10% of ticket sales. So going off those figures it looks like Hull FC are getting a pretty bad deal at the moment. I know our Chairman has stated in the past that we get a very good deal when the annual "lets find £30m out of thin air to build our own stadium brigade" start up.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I wonder if chav corner will be made unreserved once again, sounds like you would favour that move?'"
I thought Chavs were "so last year"?, maybe we should have ones for Teddy Boys and Beatniks.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I thought Chavs were "so last year"?, maybe we should have ones for Teddy Boys and Beatniks.'" Nothing wrong with Teddy Boys matey We loved Rock an Roll
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Where did allam's £1m go? The tax man?'"
Wherever you have decided it went apparently.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Wherever you have decided it went apparently.'"
you mean you don't know, what a surprise, must be the "open and transparent relationship" Fudgell has with the fans.
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| Like I said on the other thread Martin, you can think what you want
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