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| As the title says Whats happening with Webster? Is he staying as Gentle's number 2 or is he off to pastures new? Sorry if its been mentioned on another thread but I don't have time to trawl through the other threads to find an answer.
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| Quote ="oddball327"As the title says Whats happening with Webster? Is he staying as Gentle's number 2 or is he off to pastures new? Sorry if its been mentioned on another thread but I don't have time to trawl through the other threads to find an answer.'"
hopefully he's going
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| Quote ="Standee"hopefully he's going'"
Why hopefully?
No idea, no announcements have been regarding coaches.
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| We need a clean sweep if Gentle wants to keep the ex HKR scrum half then i have big concerns.
Apart from being the yes man of FUBAR he's down nothing apart from nod his head and say yes sir three bags full sir.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"We need a clean sweep if Gentle wants to keep the ex HKR scrum half then i have big concerns.
Apart from being the yes man of FUBAR he's down nothing apart from nod his head and say yes sir three bags full sir.'"
How do you know that he didn’t offer other opinions but they were simply ignored? I would love to know?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why hopefully?
No idea, no announcements have been regarding coaches.'"
because I want to see all links with the previous coaching setup cleansed, we've spent years employing people out of sentiment and loyalty, if he's that good he'll get a job elsewhere easily enough.
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| Quote ="fcandy"How do you know that he didn’t offer other opinions but they were simply ignored? I would love to know?'"
How do you know he ever challenged FUBAR?
Clearly the evidence shows he was a yes man.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"How do you know he ever challenged FUBAR?
Clearly the evidence shows he was a yes man.'"
What evidence is that then?
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| Quote ="fcandy"What evidence is that then?'"
How do you know he ever challenged FUBAR?
I'll ask again
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| Quote ="fcandy"What evidence is that then?'"
the fact that he didn't walk lie a fair few others did, happy to sit and let it wash over him and take the £££'s, like Last, on too cushy a thing.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"How do you know he ever challenged FUBAR?
I'll ask again'"
I’m not the one claiming to know the dynamics between a head coach and assistant at Hull FC. That’s why I ask you as you seem to know a lot about it?
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| Quote ="fcandy"I’m not the one claiming to know the dynamics between a head coach and assistant at Hull FC. That’s why I ask you as you seem to know a lot about it?'"
Head coach leaves because of performances he's assisted by Webster who assisted Agar in serving up the weekly dross one goes the other should follow.
Pretty simple really.
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| He's staying as no.2
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Head coach leaves because of performances he's assisted by Webster who assisted Agar in serving up the weekly dross one goes the other should follow.
Pretty simple really.'"
So by your logic, if Mr Agar was successful with Hull FC, even if Mr Webster was a yes man, that would make him a great assistant coach then? Regardless of the input he had, by association he must be great? Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy as any fan Agar has finally gone. However, people assume too much on here and state opinion as fact when in most cases it’s not founded on any evidence whatsoever.
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| Quote ="fcandy"So by your logic, if Mr Agar was successful with Hull FC, even if Mr Webster was a yes man, that would make him a great assistant coach then? Regardless of the input he had, by association he must be great? Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy as any fan Agar has finally gone. However, people assume too much on here and state opinion as fact when in most cases it’s not founded on any evidence whatsoever.'"
Great post mate
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| Quote ="fcandy"So by your logic, if Mr Agar was successful with Hull FC, even if Mr Webster was a yes man, that would make him a great assistant coach then? Regardless of the input he had, by association he must be great? Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy as any fan Agar has finally gone. However, people assume too much on here and state opinion as fact when in most cases it’s not founded on any evidence whatsoever.'"
I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
I think you may have missed my point slightly, I’m not saying you were wrong, it’s just that your opinion is based on assumption rather than anything else. That’s what I was challenging. Anyway we both want the best for Hull FC and I actually agree that perhaps a coaching change from top to bottom is the answer.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
You should not be online while your driving
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| Quote ="GEvans75"I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
I know the club have high regard for Webbo.Who is to say he won't have success as Gentles assistant.Only time will tell if it works out for him but i do think he deserves a chance working with a new coach.
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| Quote ="black and Whiteley"You should not be online while your driving'"
I bet your fun at parties.
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| Would like the decisions on the backroom staff to be down Gentle to sort out. We may see some movement in that area in November when he arrives. Hard to judge Webster as we don't know the situation, very hard for someone to get to aggressive trying to get their opinions across and change things especially when the head coach has a history of getting rid of his assistants.
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| Quote ="fcandy"I think you may have missed my point slightly, I’m not saying you were wrong, it’s just that your opinion is based on assumption rather than anything else. That’s what I was challenging. Anyway we both want the best for Hull FC and I actually agree that perhaps a coaching change from top to bottom is the answer.'"
I do understand what you was saying but what you said did involve ifs and buts.
But yes your right we both do what the same thing and with AP we might get it.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Would like the decisions on the backroom staff to be down Gentle to sort out. We may see some movement in that area in November when he arrives. Hard to judge Webster as we don't know the situation, very hard for someone to get to aggressive trying to get their opinions across and change things especially when the head coach has a history of getting rid of his assistants.'"
Agreed, If Hull FC announce that Webster is staying after everything has been looked at between Pearson, McRae and Gentle and they feel he is worth keeping then that is good enough for me. They are in a far better position to judge his coaching abilities from working within the club than us.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
You've clearly not been watching then. The style of rugby has been far better this season, not 5 drives and a kick like it was previously.
Neither I or you (despite your cliam of evidence) and or anyone else on here knows the contribution that Webbo has made. I'll wait for Gentle to decide as he will know exactly what he wants from a no.2 and what Webster has to offer.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You've clearly not been watching then. The style of rugby has been far better this season, not 5 drives and a kick like it was previously.
Neither I or you (despite your cliam of evidence) and or anyone else on here knows the contribution that Webbo has made. I'll wait for Gentle to decide as he will know exactly what he wants from a no.2 and what Webster has to offer.'"
My evidence is watching a grade A licensed team struggle to finish 8th and then get hammered at Leeds.
A team coached by Agar & Webster what more evidence do I need to form an opinion?
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