CLUELESS, CRAP RUGBY, CRAP HALF BACKS, WHY DIDNT AGAR INTRODUCE OBST EARLIER? SHARP IS A LIABILITY!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AGAR OUT, AGAR OUT!!! Lets try and get rid of the bag of ! www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarouthullfc/ sign the petition WE ARE SHIT

CLUELESS, CRAP RUGBY, CRAP HALF BACKS, WHY DIDNT AGAR INTRODUCE OBST EARLIER? SHARP IS A LIABILITY!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AGAR OUT, AGAR OUT!!! Lets try and get rid of the bag of ! www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarouthullfc/ sign the petition WE ARE SHIT

Sharp????
One of our best players by far!!

how is he? where was he for the 2 trys ay scored on his side?

shouldn't have gone for that kick either! Do you want my honest opinion, drag long off and stick obst on, he needs a kick up his ass, obst and turner in the halves.

Are you in a time-warp?

Jon Sharp left us years ago

Sharp was hung out to dry by manu

Expect a mauling come 9:45 tonight!

Could be 30-40-50-even 60

Ive not seen a more inept half in a long time. The players are clueless as to what they are supposed to be doing in every aspect of their game. Defence, attack. cohesion, interest, all are shot. If the board cannot see this stems from the coaching then i give up.

The thread title is clearly wrong.

We actually look to have gone backwards since last season.

Last season, Westerman looked dangerous, so far this year he wouldn't frighten one of our kittens.

Agar appears to have perfected the reverse Midas syndrome.

Other than my bladder, he's the first coach I know that is capable of turning champagne into pis[is[/i

Westerman was naff, waste of a lot of money. Cas must be laughing now we've got him on a 4 year deal. Everyone kept panicking and kicking on the 1st or 2nd tackle wasting chances. Manu left Sharp out to dry. Long was uncreative (for the time he was on). Obst tried hard but there was no imagination from anyone else. I can't see us finishing in the top 8 which is a disgrace for a team with some quality players. Agar shouldn't be coaching this (or any other - except maybe Rovers) team.

Maybe we should change our club song to 'Straight Down the Middle'

Your right nothing does change your still garbage................

well i am sad to say I was one who walked early, just come through the front door and wanted to see if it weas just me or did we look like a team destined to be fighting it out at the bottom this year??
dont get me wrong HKR and leeds are good sides but are they not the type we are supposed to be challenging for honours???
where has all the energy gone??
Sam had his worst game in black and white
westerman ... well i wont comment you all know dont you
manu looks burned out already
Fitz was on too long
what was the ferkin use of having hame on the bench to only use him for ten mins???

good points were briscoe was world class tonight, Omeley is full of it , Obst looks quality , and whiting had a corker at full back

sorry to say but i now agree the clock must be ticking very loudly for agar, we have gone backwards two years

Turner is not a 6 , Washy is not a super league player , Houghton and Fitz will be burnt out after 10 games , Westerman looks lost , No dummy runners , Long is injured again....the list goes on and on....same old same old...

i cant believe i am watching an A grade club??

Agar ant got a clue and until he goes nothing will change im afraid... and oh dear sore ankle and achilles for longey he should hang his boots up now...

World class coach need apply or we poach Morgan

Clueless, Fitz has gone (not helped by playing 80), Agar was using a bingo machine for interchanges. I cant wait to hear the idiots defend him. A total shambles, we look unfit and disinterested.

Please Agar, quit now, you might still get a job street sweeping.

why have luaki on the bench and use him for 10 mins only??
remind me again, we are an A grade club arent we????

I've always been split on your comments/views,but i'm with you on this,unfortunately.

Turn it in son, what makes you think he would want to come over there and be scrutinised by the most fickle fans in Super League? Morgs has taken what he wanted from Hull and will continue to do so. The reason you have Agar is nobody else will come, employed or not.

Bollox. After the crap we saw in 2008 and 2009 we had record season ticket sales in 2010.

Crowds will fall this season but they'll still be more than your club can dream of. And lets not forget how many you were getting only a few years ago, 1100 IIRC.

Richard Agar was a very clever player who you might have thought would make a good coach.

To me the main problem is poor recruitment and I wonder if the blame for that lies with Agar or the boardroom.

Most of Hull's team tonight were players signed from other clubs or overseas. Presumably each and every one of those players were considered good enough to improve the squad. So with a full salary cap available year on year plus the rare ability to pay transfer fees, you would think Hull should have a top, top team.

Maybe some think Hull do have a top team and somehow Richard Agar makes them rubbish. But IMO although Hull obviously do have some good players they have just as many who don't really cut it. And they keep signing those of the latter category.

Then there's the problem of the Sean Long/Joe Westerman type signing. Headline grabbing for sure which is good but you need to be sure they can match hype with deeds. Long cannot simply because the human body cannot perform as it approaches middle age like it does in youth. I will not criticise Sean Long because back when he was at an age where it is possible to play good rugby, he was one of the best. Westerman joins Hull after a very disappointing 2010 with Cas. the warning signs were there for everyone to see but seemingly not to Hull FC.

One thing I have observed many times is that when a player comes on the scene, burns brightly but then fades is that they NEVER ever get back to where they were. It's probably a confidence thing but when it goes it stays gone. These players develop an instinctive self preservational ability to stay just a fraction away from the places where you get hurt. I introduce to you Joe Westerman. Must admit I would too if I was a RL player, it is such a tough game.! I couldn't come close to matching a middle aged Long or a tentative Westerman but then again Hull FC are not paying me top dollar like those two.

PLayers like Moa and Lauaki should not be wearing Hull FC shirts. If they were English then OK they can take their place as squad members but taking precious overseas trained spots? No way.

Now you have Sam Obst on good money for 2 years taking up a quota spot and all because you had a problem and he was available. He's a good little player nothing special but he won't let you down. Quota spot for a Grade A club? No way. You have the injury prone Phelps taking another overseas slot for the main reason that he was available.

Long term planning? Vision? Or desperate firefighting?

You may deride Rovers for their 9 foreign born players (10 when/if Mason arrives) but you have 7 now and do they add the same kind of value as Newton, Galea, Dobson, Clinton & co? Be honest now. Cos those Rovers players undoubtedly are better than what Rovers could get from the British market therefore they are all good signings. Moa? Phelps? Obst?

I've always thought that the best coaches are the ones who have the best players. It's never the other way round.

Give Richard Agar the current Australian first XIII and hey presto he becomes a good coach. He'll beat Rovers every time. You'd love him.

Sport is about players. Other clubs like Rovers sign better players than you do. That's your problem. Just IMO of course.