Today has summed up this season, lots of effort but zero brains,hence he is not the man for me.

you are asking for a proper debate

thats not going to happen is it

We can but try !

Top coach,give him a 5 year deal.

We threw the ball about in the first 20 mins and if we had passed along the line line Warrington did for the first two tries last night we could have scored but it stopped and we cut back inside.

Soon as we went behind we went back to 5 drives and an terrible kick.

Agar - Undecided.

Hull Fc - Finished 6th good improvment.

Enough is enough. He has to go such as uninspiring performance and season.

You finished 7th HTH.
And if you don't belive me go and ask some of the experts on here

Need some better players end of really . But where will they come from not many available need to splash some cash but will that happen can't see that happening

Placings are re-stated after the play-offs. We really finished 7th. I said before the game that it all came down to the Leeds and Rovers games. We lost both. Whilst we've improved vs a terrible 2009, 7th isn't good enough for a club of our size. Bradford have strengthened hugely and Crusaders are no slouches. Unless we pull some signings out of the bag we'll finish out of the play-offs next year. Massively disappointing end to the season.

I stand corrected

No disrespect but didnt you splash the cash as you put it last year in Long, Fitzy and Orge?
Where is the extra cap money coming from ( I know Cusack and the like are going but will they be on huge deals?, I wouldn't have thought so.)

Agreed but what about Richard Agar ?

That's the easy part: he's a joke, an embarrassment and a disgrace.. A hideous cancer eating away out our club.

=#FF0000Edited. I'm sure you can make your point without getting unduly personal and bypassing the Swear Filter.

K.

FFS - you were a gnats bollock hair from getting 4th spot this year and have had a season that most teams would be proud of.

One bad day at the office and some of you are wanting a head on a plate.

You were one try short of getting two bites of the play off cherry, one try more and todays result wouldn't have mattered so much, one try more and you'd be saying "well there's always next week".

Get a grip.

With the players Hull have got you should be a top 4 side.

However the coaching at Hull is very dour.
You have some exciting backs but just dont know how to use them.

Good team have players running angles and switching play. All Hull seem to do is a few one out drives then when they get within the 20 zone swing it left or right.
Against an organised defence thats just easy to soak up.

Just look at the waste of talent that there has been at Hull.
Tommy Lee gone
Richard Horne from wonderkid to solid player
Craig Hall gone

I think Briscoe will be the next. He will be turned into nothing more than a big solid winger, rather than a worldbeater that he should become.

Yer good point I mean if we'd won both games that we lost nobody would be moaning about losing would we. Not a single Leeds fan would tolerate Agar as their coach so don't come on here and try and make out the guys a good coach.

Have you seen our backs? Not a top 4 quality back line IMO, although there are some exceptions in there. We're still struggling with our halves as well.

As soon as Hally went off it screwed us up. The whole weeks training and planning, with not even our 1st choice FB, went to pot. Can't blame Agar for that. If Hall played the whole match, we saw his true plans and coaching, and we lost, then there may be a point about Agar.

One point of 4th place, huge improvement on last season, just not quite there yet. Once this game loss, somehow, settles down, we will all see that.

No disrespect Kosh but it was Agar and FC who gave a player who was clearly knackered a nice big 2 year deal when his then current club were only willing to give him 1 year due to the risk.
You put that along side a player who due to health reasons looks a shadow of his former self and it doesn't take Bamber Gascoigne to work out that problems may well arrive.

Lost Radders after 10 mins last week that wouldn't have been in the game plan but we played with more passion, skill and determination with 12 men than we showed with 13 today ...a poor performance all round

I dont buy the Hall excuse for one minute, yes it was unfortunate but surely thats what coaching a rugby club is all about ?
Either way, my view is based on the whole of his tenancy and not just today although it went some way of personifying the former.

With our recruitment I expected much more, although going into a season with one proper winger proved to be his most glaring error in my view. That said young Reece showed a few good glimpses today.

Full Back is more of a pivotal role then a forward.

Its not an excuse! The better team won on the day! I'm saying it wasn't a true indication of Agar's coaching because his game plan wasn't truly shown!

Fair point but as i said is that not what coaching is all about ?

We had few if any options except to go with Long, and none of the injuries he's been out with could have been 'predicted'. When fit he's looked far from 'knackered'.

Horne is on contract. I fully expect us to be looking for other options when that contract ends. Replacing one half back at a time is hard enough - we'd have had no chance of replacing both in one closed season.

Too much work needed doing for one season's recruitment and retention to fix.