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| Surely Richard Agar now after that performance can now see its time to start looking for a half back, berrigan and washbrook offered nothing in attack and with horne and longy only playing four times this season together through injuries, that hull should bee looking to bring someone in. Any thoughts
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"Surely Richard Agar now after that performance can now see its time to start looking for a half back, berrigan and washbrook offered nothing in attack and with horne and longy only playing four times this season together through injuries, that hull should bee looking to bring someone in. Any thoughts'"
You may as well pi$$ in your boots.Nearly all of us can see the shortfalls,apart from apparantly ,the coaching department.
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| Missing out on Dobson because he wasn't good enough looks a bad move
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Missing out on Dobson because he wasn't good enough looks a bad move'"
and yet its only a few months since Dobson was being slated for his poor form by your fans...sport is very fickle.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Missing out on Dobson because he wasn't good enough looks a bad move'"
I thought the brass was the issue?
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| Quote ="UllFC"and yet its only a few months since Dobson was being slated for his poor form by your fans...sport is very fickle.'"
Form is temporary and all that
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| Quote ="barton baird"I thought the brass was the issue?'"
I have read that justin morgan is in strong talks with finch, shame hull cant realise he is the sort of player we need. quality stand off and a massive difference to the team he would make aswell
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"I have read that justin morgan is in strong talks with finch, shame hull cant realise he is the sort of player we need. quality stand off and a massive difference to the team he would make aswell'"
don't be daft, we'll probs go buy more hard working (aka slow and make no impact at all) 2nd rowers instead
I think we need a new half back, prop, centre, and a winger if Calderwood goes.
and sadly we haven't enough free salary cap to sign 4 quality players.
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| Can't think of anyone who could come in straight away Danny,ideally Brad Drew on loan for a short term fix until the end of the season but theres so many problems, Giants can still catch us up, is he still quota? etc
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| Quote ="UllFC"don't be daft, we'll probs go buy more hard working (aka slow and make no impact at all) 2nd rowers instead
I think we need a new half back, prop, centre, and a winger if Calderwood goes.
and sadly we haven't enough free salary cap to sign 4 quality players.'"
there is nothing daft about morgan in strong talks with finch neither is the likes of hull needing some one of finches class making us a better team pal.
but totally agree hull being they way they have in the past will pay for an over aged injury prone used to be star forward
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| Quote ="muddyboots"Can't think of anyone who could come in straight away Danny,ideally Brad Drew on loan for a short term fix until the end of the season but theres so many problems, Giants can still catch us up, is he still quota? etc'"
not sure to be honist mate. like the other lad said hull have the problem with the cap for over seas players
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Missing out on Dobson because he wasn't good enough looks a bad move'"
We couldn't have signed dobson. We didn't have a quota spot or the cap space available to sign him mid season in 2008, and his visa run out before the end of that season so he had to come over before. The dobson to Hull rumour couldn't have happened.
Plus he's average, although currently I'd take a fit average SH over no SH
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We couldn't have signed dobson. We didn't have a quota spot or the cap space available to sign him mid season in 2008, and his visa run out before the end of that season so he had to come over before. The dobson to Hull rumour couldn't have happened.
Plus he's average, although currently I'd take a fit average SH over no SH'"
I think hes more than average TBH rovers would be a different side with dobson out, rovers were poor when dobson had a few bad games and took a mullering, when hes on form rovers always do well, i would take him any day
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"I think hes more than average TBH rovers would be a different side with dobson out, rovers were poor when dobson had a few bad games and took a mullering, when hes on form rovers always do well, i would take him any day'"
think Yeaman an Turner would be a lot better as well with decent half backs, Manu could go through gaps, instead of through 3 men
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"I think hes more than average TBH rovers would be a different side with dobson out, rovers were poor when dobson had a few bad games and took a mullering, when hes on form rovers always do well, i would take him any day'"
He was 3rd choice SH at an average NRL side before he came over. He's OK but nothing special
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He was 3rd choice SH at an average NRL side before he came over. He's OK but nothing special'"
And Sean Long would nt be 3rd choice at least Dobson can stay on the park which most of our scrum halves have been unable to do the last few years
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| Quote ="jersey mark"And Sean Long would nt be 3rd choice at least Dobson can stay on the park which most of our scrum halves have been unable to do the last few years'"
I think you should substitute scrum halves with players in general.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He was 3rd choice SH at an average NRL side before he came over. He's OK but nothing special'"
I think you would find most 3rd rate SH would make it in most teams in england and if you cant see what dobson does for rovers then you need to get some glasses, because if rovers never had dobson then you would find them getting more of a mullering every week
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We couldn't have signed dobson. We didn't have a quota spot or the cap space available to sign him mid season in 2008, and his visa run out before the end of that season so he had to come over before. The dobson to Hull rumour couldn't have happened.
Plus he's average, although currently I'd take a fit average SH over no SH'"
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"I think you would find most 3rd rate SH would make it in most teams in england and if you cant see what dobson does for rovers then you need to get some glasses, because if rovers never had dobson then you would find them getting more of a mullering every week'"
Yeah but no but
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"I[u have read that justin morgan is in strong talks with [/u[ufinch,[/u shame hull cant realise he is the sort of player we need. quality stand off and a massive difference to the team he would make aswell'"
can they afford him??
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"there is nothing daft about morgan in strong talks with finch neither is the likes of hull needing some one of finches class making us a better team pal.
but totally agree hull being they way they have in the past will pay for an over aged injury prone used to be star forward'"
we need a creative 7 who organises - that's not Finch. Having said that. He is better (considerably) then any options we have at 6
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| At this stage of the season I don't think we will be looking for a replacement. Personally I think that the creative players (berro, washy and horney) need to be given more freedom and our style of play needs to be changed. This season we have just focussed on getting to the kick with one man rugby and its too boring to watch! I know a lot of players want Agar out and I agree why they want him out. To be honest I can't believe we are 4th in the league with the rugby we have played. I have only seen a couple of entertaining games this season!
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"I think hes more than average TBH rovers would be a different side with dobson out, rovers were poor when dobson had a few bad games and took a mullering, when hes on form rovers always do well, i would take him any day'"
dobson never really had that poor a patch he was just behind a struggling beaten pack, never got time or field position and hence looked lacking in ideas. Once I pack hit some form our backs, most of them very inexperienced look very good.
Your pack on Saturday never laid a platform and never dominated, looked uninterested and it gave your backs no chance. There seemed to be a safety first attitude that stifled any creativity you have, I'd go as far as to say if your team was allowed to play carefree attacking rugby they'd be very good and entertaining, maybe lose a few but you'd certainly win a few. The best I've seen fc play is when they're behind and seem to say sod it and throw it about. For me it's the game plan that's the issue.
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| Quote ="barham red"dobson never really had that poor a patch he was just behind a struggling beaten pack, never got time or field position and hence looked lacking in ideas. Once I pack hit some form our backs, most of them very inexperienced look very good.
Your pack on Saturday never laid a platform and never dominated, looked uninterested and it gave your backs no chance. There seemed to be a safety first attitude that stifled any creativity you have, I'd go as far as to say if your team was allowed to play carefree attacking rugby they'd be very good and entertaining, maybe lose a few but you'd certainly win a few. The best I've seen fc play is when they're behind and seem to say sod it and throw it about. For me it's the game plan that's the issue.'"
I totally agree! I do think we do need to play some carefree attacking rugby. At all ages at Hull from 1st team to u16's its all too structured and players don't get the freedom they want. We all know that we have creative players at the side its just getting it out of them and I think the way forward would be a change in the style of play.
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