Please could somebody explain to me what exactly this includes. I thought both Briscoe's tries were dodgy, especially the first...

Who cares....both awarded but didnt matter in a season.

Momentum did not stop.

If you are grounded, ball carrying elbow on floor and they have a hand on you or more then you reach out again thats duble movement.

If yor still sliding or wriggling then its not

Its the same as the forward pass................refs take no notice.

Briscoe clearly lifted his elbow in the first instance.

I know it matters not, I just wondered if I had missed a rule change somewhere.

That was a great bit of play from Menzies (who ripped us apart tonight). A shame it was slightly forward.

Correct me if I am wrong,but wasn`t the tackle deemed as not complete,therefore play on?

Both could have gone either way imo.

Yes he lifted the arm but his body was still moving forward and he never reached out

I think your right Bart .

The first was about as double as you can get. Yet another nonsense call from VR.

Yes that's my understanding, Cockayne was awarded one last season almost exactly the same against Catalans at Craven Park, the reason they gave was that the tackle was not complete. I watched it with the sound down but it did seem as though the VR was looking to see if the Bradford player had hold of him?? Who was the VR btw?

You are not allowed to lift arm if tackler is even fin ger touching you, if due to momentum the ball carrying arm bounces off of the floor and u stretch out play on, u cannot wriggle etc out of tackle, if your ball carrying arm has touched floor and u lift it while tackler is touching you its penalty.

If ball carrying arm does not touch floor and ur momentum is fully stopped u can still try and get up or pass ball, but normally its easier to try and push up wi5th ball carrying arm, hopefully tackler holds on and penalty.

Briscoes second try was a clear penalty to bradford, first one was momentum as ball carrying arm bounced, but you couldnt see properly if foot in touch so benefit of doubt.

Menzies hands were going backwards when released ball, we are told to look at position of his hands when adjudging forward passes, but you cant do that noones eyes are that quick as to look in direction of ball and offloaders hands at same time.

I hate forward passes and nearly always call them forwards, players dont like it but tough, refs are only human as well, at last weeks match coach who was winning said i was best ref he ever seen, they ended up losing and i was a complete and utter xxxxxxx..who should give it up cos i completely erm rubbish lol.

still superb at his age! such a shame we couldn't get him in 2006!

Must admit i was surprised that his second try was allowed to stand. I thought if the ball carrying arm touched the floor whist an opponent was tackling him that the tackle was complete.

His body never stopped moving towards the line, so he was therefore within his rights to lift his arm and put it back down.

As I've said elsewhere, the interpretation of that rule seems to have changed this season. Not sure I agree with it TBH even if it did benefit us last night.

I thought the other way round, would have given the first but if I was a Bradford fan I would be very annoyed about the second.

Huddersfield had one like Briscoes first ruled out in the challenge cup final. Different ref different week and a different outcome. They all need to be brought into line.

Ian Smith.

I agree. Both could have gone either way imo.

On both occasions, the Bradford tackler had gone into touch, so has that got something to do with it ?

ie the tackle cannot be completed if the tackler is off the field of play.

It would seem a good explanation and I am sure I have read it somewhere.

Briscoes second try would of been cruel to disallow after when he got up he looked at the ref to see if he was tackled but the ref said play on.

Thats a new one on me! Youre allowed to make a double movement if youre still moving? You sure?

Isn't that the momentum rule