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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yesterday, on hullkrfans.co.uk. We're stupid to pay it, in my view.
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What Widnes supposed to of offered but not sure where play Bristoe though.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Anyone got any rumours ? Board of all this discussion on the salary cap, and the pace of our outside backs !!'"
Very sorry for developing a thread from the complete guess work 99% of this thread is.
Here's a rumour for you. I can't be bothered to name them all, but EVERY single player in SL and the NRL could well be on the way to Hull for next season.
Come the end of September, you will see I was right about at least 6 of these
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No it's not, we can pay his contract out in full and there's nothing he can do about it.'"
Thats assuming we have the required wedge available to pay him out in full.
In doubt that would be the case. Which would bring us to the old chestnut of "by mutual consent" which would have to be agreed by Seymour.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Shannon McDonnell will getting £130k a year. 8% of the cap, no less. Wow.'"
Through in the 200k+ each for Chase and Ellis and were ed.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Thats assuming we have the required wedge available to pay him out in full.
In doubt that would be the case. Which would bring us to the old chestnut of "by mutual consent" which would have to be agreed by Seymour.'"
Only guess work but maybe we'll see him at Cas or Salford as part-ex on in coming players.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Shannon McDonnell will getting £130k a year. 8% of the cap, no less. Wow.'"
Not even getting 100k
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| Chase and g.ellis will not be on 200k each this is sl not nrl
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Agreed I have commented on Crooks lack of pace a could of times, I see that as an observation rather than a criticism. It's not as though I have slated him for poor play, there would be no ground for that.
I think you are mixing up an objective view for criticism. There were far too many overstating his qualities after his debut, a little like what happened when Lee, Washbrook, Lyne et al made their debuts.'"
No, I'd credit it as an objective view if it was borne out by facts or even just looked to have some sort of credence. There is absolutely no problem with the amount of pace Crooks has though, looking objectively or otherwise. I actually wouldn't have said anything if you'd picked up on any other aspect of his game, but quite frankly I think this lack of pace you mention is just mythical.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Thats assuming we have the required wedge available to pay him out in full.
In doubt that would be the case. Which would bring us to the old chestnut of "by mutual consent" which would have to be agreed by Seymour.'"
That's all I was saying.
If AP is willing to spend money on transfer fees he'll be willing to pay off Seymour.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Chase and g.ellis will not be on 200k each this is sl not nrl'"
Cheers Sherlock.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I can see the opportunity for clubs to sign players on Three year deals when verbally it is agreed the player will play for just two and get the final year as a severance payment. It's too easy to avoid the cap with this an enables a club to "overpay" a player without falling foul of the cap rules.'"
As I mentioned earlier, Wigan tried a version of this scheme a few years ago and were nailed for it. Plus the severance payment has to be agreed by the cap regulator & RFL. They can keep part or all of it on the cap if they think there's monkey-business afoot.
It's not a perfect scheme - none such exist - but it's actually pretty much as good as it's going to get IMO. The latest tweaks have removed most of the loopholes and inconsistencies.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Very sorry for developing a thread from the complete guess work 99% of this thread is.
Here's a rumour for you. I can't be bothered to name them all, but EVERY single player in SL and the NRL could well be on the way to Hull for next season.
Come the end of September, you will see I was right about at least 6 of these
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Sounds good .
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Cheers Sherlock.'"
Your welcome mr cooper.
it was in reply of another post
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| Quote ="jamesfc724"ey? Briscoe isnt fast??'"
Quote ="voodooroo"PMSFLMFAO and I do mean PMSL
If compared to H Bolt maybe your evaluation is correct
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Ok, your opinion, I doubt many would agree with you though.'"
Right, my point was... He's not THAT fast but he still has a freakish ability to score some fantastic tries even ones from range. It was more a post aimed at writing off Crookes' ability bucause he doesn't have out and out pace.
Briscoe gets caught very regularly and often has to beat the same player more than once..
He did, after all, get caught by the slow Michael Dobson AND Vella in 2008!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Right, my point was... He's not THAT fast but he still has a freakish ability to score some fantastic tries even ones from range. It was more a post aimed at writing off Crookes' ability bucause he doesn't have out and out pace.
Briscoe gets caught very regularly and often has to beat the same player more than once..
He did, after all, get caught by the slow Michael Dobson AND Vella in 2008!!'"
I think you and Carl S are at cross purposes with me. At no point have I written off Crook on ability. I have said he lacks pace. This, Carl, is not a mythical issue.
Whiting lacks pace, but makes up for it in other aspects of his game.
Briscoe has strength and good footwork in his locker and is a much quicker player now than the one who didn't get caught by Dobson or Vella, despite those two having a head start on him.
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| A couple of tries have been conceded because Crooks' opposite centre has been able to beat him for pace on the outside. Duport's for Catalan being a prime example. Not sure that's just down to pace though, and he's certainly quicker than Whiting.
Don't think it's an issue.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I think you and Carl S are at cross purposes with me. At no point have I written off Crook on ability. I have said he lacks pace. =#0000FFThis, Carl, is not a mythical issue.
Whiting lacks pace, but makes up for it in other aspects of his game.
Briscoe has strength and good footwork in his locker and is a much quicker player now than the one who didn't get caught by Dobson or Vella, despite those two having a head start on him.'"
To the extent you're suggesting, yes it is. He is not amongst the fastest centres in SL, but nor is he amongst the slowest. His pace is more than adequate for his position. Whether or not he makes it, it will not be down to him not being quick enough.
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| Crooks needs to spend some time in the gym, his speed isn't the problem it's his setting off, he needs some more explosive power. Needing to put on a bit of mass is an issue with most youngsters though so no need to worry just yet.
the Duport try was more down to his inexperience IMO, he didn't just want to shoot off after him and end up out of position or missing the tackle just due to running too fast and getting stepped, seen it plenty of times where a player doesn't want to go diving in to the tackle and before he knows it he's been ran round. IMO of course.
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| Quote ="fcimp"Have we been linked with any Brisbane players?'"
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"A couple of tries have been conceded because Crooks' opposite centre has been able to beat him for pace on the outside. Duport's for Catalan being a prime example. Not sure that's just down to pace though, and he's certainly quicker than Whiting.
Don't think it's an issue.'"
All in all does his pace have to be an issue?? As previous comments stated, lyon's not a quick centre but is top notch..
People seem to be slating one of our top upcoming youngsters. It's his first season in super league and has much to learn, including positioning as twice he's done a turner and run out the line.
But been a centre doesn't mean he needs pace to succeed, thats just a bonus
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| From Sky Website:
Leeds Rhinos have confirmed that full-back Brent Webb has played his last game for the club after a reccurrence of a knee injury ruled him out for the rest of the season.
The 31-year-old New Zealand international joined the Rhinos in 2007 and made 155 appearances for the club. [uHe is expected to join Catalan Dragons next season[/u
Thought that this was a done deal a while back? Possibly still on the market?
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"From Sky Website:
Leeds Rhinos have confirmed that full-back Brent Webb has played his last game for the club after a reccurrence of a knee injury ruled him out for the rest of the season.
The 31-year-old New Zealand international joined the Rhinos in 2007 and made 155 appearances for the club. [uHe is expected to join Catalan Dragons next season[/u
Thought that this was a done deal a while back? Possibly still on the market?'"
Leeds are a far better side without him.
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