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| Only bright part today was the Staveley did more in 20 odd mins than lane has all season. Hopefully we have a few more to step up as that’s the only chance we have at any success next year.
I’m yet to see any suggestion that Harvey Barron is a SL player. Surely Lewis Martin deserves a crack over him and bring Balmforth in for saints please
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Only bright part today was the Staveley did more in 20 odd mins than lane has all season. Hopefully we have a few more to step up as that’s the only chance we have at any success next year.
I’m yet to see any suggestion that Harvey Barron is a SL player. Surely Lewis Martin deserves a crack over him and bring Balmforth in for saints please'"
Physically Martin is ahead of Barron, so surprised he hasn't had a shot yet. In fact, I think if Martin has the chance that Barron did today on the breakaway, Martin scores. I think he has the strength to fend off Pryce
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| I’d like to see Martin given a chance.
Impressed me when I’ve seen him in the reserves.
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Only bright part today was the Staveley did more in 20 odd mins than lane has all season. Hopefully we have a few more to step up as that’s the only chance we have at any success next year.
I’m yet to see any suggestion that Harvey Barron is a SL player. Surely Lewis Martin deserves a crack over him and bring Balmforth in for saints please'"
Apart from a few decent squad players we haven't produced a high quality SL player in years.
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| Well you know how much I love the FC but some of that lot out there should be bloody ashamed. Yeh I know they train every day and they have to keep their bodies tuned and many carry injuries at the end of the season, but they only really work for 80 minutes a week in front of their customers so surely they can show some sort of dedication and resolve !!!
Whilst enduring that performance today I reflecting on so many more that have been the same over the years and I commented that thank goodness there is no relegation next season. Because that was just abysmal and the signings we have made hardly engender much hope for doing much more than standing still. We are losing the few better players we have and even if we can replace like for like it's hard to see anything but a blooming struggle next season. We would have been nailed on relegation candidates next year particularly when you compare how far today we were behind the 9th club just one place above us. They were hardly intense either themselves.
We might have one of the best coaches in the League (and I'm convinced we have) but in the last couple of weeks he must have realised just what a challenge making anything of this lot this season has been and what a test of his credentials the future is!!!
When you have a minute, look at the starting 1 -17 of 2017 and compare it with what we have now and then look how we built that team over the years and you'll agree its hard to see how a club can then go so far backwards so quickly, still I guess I'll renew, but not with a lot of hope going forward. Bring on the end of the game next Friday, (I just hope the score board operator has a good calculator) and let's get back to that wonderful wasteland were all we have to exist on is having some (possibly misplaced) hope for the next campaign.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Well that was fun. Apart from the outgoing players. We still need to shift a fair few. Today was awful. Mac not a FB. Barron not ready. Sutcliffe average. Scott still not sure on the kid. Swift will miss. Hoy jury out but think he will be ok. Clifford definitely miss. Satae won't miss. Taylor age maybe caught up with him. Fash squad player lane no comment. Savellio on this year won't miss. Cator needs to play behind a bigger pack. Staverly still raw. Rest of the bench average. Glad when the season finishes. The job in hand is massive. As I said we can't keep sacking coaches'"
The problem we have for next season is with the unknown quality of player coming in,the end of season capitulation of the team once again its going to severely effect pass sales and makes the clubs financial problems even worse.
It was obvious today that McIntosh was moved to full back in order to give Hoy some game time at halfback as it looks certain now he will play there next season as we dont have any option.
Sutcliffe is average,always said so and the fact is next season we look to have a very poor threequarter line and now Swift has gone we have no strike players either at centre or wing.
I have also yet to see any of the clubs younger players that could step up and play regular S/L next season.Potential is fine at reserve/academy level but the gap is probably at least two years till we see someone if any that make the grade.The lack of regular reserve fixtures means that several of these players will have to go out to Championship clubs on loan or fall by the wayside.
Selecting McIntosh at full back was an ideal time to give Martin a run rather than Barron and i cant see the point of Smith including him in the squad if he was never going to play.
At least we have a decent full back coming in next season
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| Quote ="mwindass"I still see us as a bottom 4 team next season, Smith has done a good job of getting rid of most of the players who needed to leave.
What I'd hope for is less of today's performances moving forward, and an extension of that purple patch we had when we turned Wigan and Saints over at home.
If things "go well" I could see us challenging for a top 6 spot in 2025.
It's going to take time.'"
Why has he done a good job getting rid of players we dont need?
most fans recognised the players that needed to go
The difficult one was probably Griffin.
He can certainly be criticised by continuing to play Lovodua,Lane and Dwyer
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| Quote ="bonaire"Why has he done a good job getting rid of players we dont need?
most fans recognised the players that needed to go
The difficult one was probably Griffin.
He can certainly be criticised by continuing to play Lovodua,Lane and Dwyer'"
Could've easily resigned them like previous coaches
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| Quote ="bonaire"Why has he done a good job getting rid of players we dont need?
most fans recognised the players that needed to go
The difficult one was probably Griffin.
He can certainly be criticised by continuing to play Lovodua,Lane and Dwyer'"
So you would be happy for him to go?
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Lets hope they can handle the pressure.
Play the game not the occasion.'"
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| Quote ="mwindass"I still see us as a bottom 4 team next season, Smith has done a good job of getting rid of most of the players who needed to leave.
What I'd hope for is less of today's performances moving forward, and an extension of that purple patch we had when we turned Wigan and Saints over at home.
If things "go well" I could see us challenging for a top 6 spot in 2025.
It's going to take time.'"
"""Smith done a good job getting most of the players to leave""""
Likes of Clifford, swift, taylor, satae, savelio are still head and shoulders above other players
Alot of deadwood still here next season that's the problem "hull born and bred" so doesn't get noticed as much
Carlos is one of the biggest deadwood nowadays yet people don't notice it
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| Yesterday man Tony Smith seems in total control of your club with Pearson nowhere to be seen.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"It was pathetic, the fact he went to score twice in 3 tackles when we’re getting hammered made it worse.'"
Wow, you are a truly miserable soul if you couldn't take any joy from that moment.
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| People can talk about doing better under Hodgson, but he was backed fully by Pearson with a full cap and making mid season signings.
Smith has had alot less cap and released multiple players without any replacements being brought in.
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| I usually sleep on a result and wake up the next day somewhat over it, but this one has certainly stuck.
The one and only positive I can attempt to spin from yesterdays embarrassment is, as alluded to in the shopping list thread, even players under contract may not be safe. Hopefully that is true, as it’ll certainly speed up the transition process, but with it I have my doubts over one sticking point which is of course, money.
For me, this club simply cannot afford to have another year of mediocrity, and to be honest, that is been generous especially over the last couple. And whilst we run on a reduced budget we are certainly running the risk of this been a bigger probability. Ultimately, this lies with the man at the top. He has two options.
He fully backs Tony, giving him full cap to work with to give us every opportunity to avoid another season of disappointment.
Or he realises he has taken the club as far as he can on his own, and accept investment from outside the club.
Failing both, he should be looking to sell up. Call it harsh, but I truly fear where this club could be heading. It’s toxic and quite frankly disgusting they have allowed our great club to be in the state it currently is.
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| Quote ="Dave K."People can talk about doing better under Hodgson, but he was backed fully by Pearson with a full cap and making mid season signings.
Smith has had alot less cap and released multiple players without any replacements being brought in.'"
Don't think Smith was particularly bothered about rushing out to sign anyone mid season. The signings that Hodgson made last season hardly inspired us to greater things....
Do think Pearson needs to tell the fans if we are spending or planning on spending full cap next season
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| Quote ="mwindass"Don't think Smith was particularly bothered about rushing out to sign anyone mid season. The signings that Hodgson made last season hardly inspired us to greater things....
Do think Pearson needs to tell the fans if we are spending or planning on spending full cap next season'"
The recruitment so far suggests we will not be.
Pearson has been pretty honest about finances in the past so I wouldn't be surprised if he acknowledges this.
The danger is how will it effect pass sales.
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| Sixty-four missed tackles. Only Cam Scott didn't miss at least one.
Satae 8 carries for 47 metres, Fash 5 for 23 metres, Brown 6 for 28 metres.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Sixty-four missed tackles. Only Cam Scott didn't miss at least one.
Satae 8 carries for 47 metres, Fash 5 for 23 metres, Brown 6 for 28 metres.'"
I'd like to see the stats for metres after contact.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"I usually sleep on a result and wake up the next day somewhat over it, but this one has certainly stuck.
The one and only positive I can attempt to spin from yesterdays embarrassment is, as alluded to in the shopping list thread, even players under contract may not be safe. Hopefully that is true, as it’ll certainly speed up the transition process, but with it I have my doubts over one sticking point which is of course, money.
For me, this club simply cannot afford to have another year of mediocrity, and to be honest, that is been generous especially over the last couple. And whilst we run on a reduced budget we are certainly running the risk of this been a bigger probability. Ultimately, this lies with the man at the top. He has two options.
He fully backs Tony, giving him full cap to work with to give us every opportunity to avoid another season of disappointment.
Or he realises he has taken the club as far as he can on his own, and accept investment from outside the club.
Failing both, he should be looking to sell up. Call it harsh, but I truly fear where this club could be heading. It’s toxic and quite frankly disgusting they have allowed our great club to be in the state it currently is.'"
Maybe the reason he is reluctant to sell is that the club is his source of income rather than investment? Just a hypothesis as to why allegedly offers of investment in exchange for control have been knocked back. Obviously we can't see director remuneration in our abridged accounts but a thought?
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"I'd like to see the stats for metres after contact.'"
Annoyingly the SL website doesn't post them. The only decent carry I can remember is Staveleys
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe the reason he is reluctant to sell is that the club is his source of income rather than investment? Just a hypothesis as to why allegedly offers of investment in exchange for control have been knocked back. Obviously we can't see director remuneration in our abridged accounts but a thought?'"
I mentioned this at the beginning of the season and got a threatening pm from admin. It's clear to me that Pearson draws his salary from the club, what other source of income does he have? To me it's a concern.
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| The missed tackles in general and metres from our forwards is a disgrace, week after week.
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| Savelio was the only player to make over 100M (112)
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