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| Quote ="al283"Comparisons with previous regimes unfair, generally they had extremely tight purse strings.
This Clown operates at FULL salary cap & has a backer prepared to pay players off, swap the squad every 5 minuters, bring in stop gap players.....................
Really feel for AP, don't see how he could do more, other than recognise that Lee was a HUGE mistake.'"
I'm sure you mean a[size=200 =#FF4000GIGANTIC AND POTENTIALLY COSTLY[/size mistake!!
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"So its not the players fault,they drop the ball,miss tackles and fall apart? I was there last night and make no mistake it was embarrassing to watch.IMO our problem is the pack.Paea has played probably two decent games all season,last night he made no headway at all no leg drive just run in to the opposition with very little aggression. Green another one makes no impact at all too lightweight,Bowden another one who has only had a couple of decent games.Blame radford all you like we just have not got the fire power up front only feka mad any attempt at aggression. It was clear to see the vast difference how the Wigan pack punched holes in our defence and kept our pack quite all night and not for the first time this season.how many games have our pack dominated? not many.Clearly these performances are not good enough but not all the blame can be laid at Radders door.I doubt if any coach in the game can turn this side round without some different personal up front .Anyone who has played the game knows the pack lay the platform and our backs have not had that luxury enough.It was said by many before a ball was kicked that our pack was not good enough.how many times this season has radders asked for more agression? either the players are not up to it or they dont want to do it for radders but whatever it needs sorting before next season'"
So why did he sign Carvell then let he go to play at Castleford?
Paea also played well when Carvell was in the side.
Radford is a useless coach and even worse man manager
No Mention of Sa,Ben Crooks or Lancaster been injured so why did the idiot not play Crooks at centre instead of a Rookie from the under 19s?
Why not play Lancaster allowing Talanoa to play centre which would have released Whiting to play in the second row.
Why play Whiting,Westerman,Watts out of position when simply playing Whiting in the second row would have solved that problem.
Why bring Cunningham back to interchange with Houghton when after 15 minutes he brings Cunningham on at 13.
Why have Miller as 18th man when he could have played Miller at 7 allowing Abdul to bench and offer an option at half back or 13 into the game
Yes I blame Radford for taking the club backwards in a big way.In fact name me anything positive that Radford has actually done whilst in charge.
he talks of Tuson been a great signing and even has Pearson believing it.WHAT! he is pants a real mr averageJay Pitts is a far better all round player yet gets farmed out.
Then to class Pryce as a marquee signing says it all.
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| That's must be about 100 times you've posted these comments.
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| Quote ="ccs"That's must be about 100 times you've posted these comments.'"
He's a ing idiot. We all know Radford is out of his depth but the bloke is obsessed.
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| Quote ="al283"Comparisons with previous regimes unfair, generally they had extremely tight purse strings.
This Clown operates at FULL salary cap & has a backer prepared to pay players off, swap the squad every 5 minuters, bring in stop gap players.....................
Really feel for AP, don't see how he could do more, other than recognise that Lee was a HUGE mistake.'"
But we aren't operating at full cap. We're currently around £1.2m.
No wonder we're struggling!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But we aren't operating at full cap. We're currently around £1.2m.
No wonder we're struggling!!'"
Who on earth told you that?
With the exception of London and maybe Bradford I would be surprised if any team in the league was only operating on £1.2m, and we certainly aren't.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Who on earth told you that?
With the exception of London and maybe Bradford I would be surprised if any team in the league was only operating on £1.2m, and we certainly aren't.'"
Lee Radford's post match interview for a start!!
He said he's not going to make excuses and doesn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2..
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Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Lee Radford's post match interview for a start!!
He said he's not going to make excuses and doesn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2..'"
Not what he said at the start of the season, and I'd say your outgoings and in comings are fairly equal (from an outside perspective at least)
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html
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He said he's not going to make excuses and doesn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2..'"
Not what he said at the start of the season, and I'd say your outgoings and in comings are fairly equal (from an outside perspective at least)
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html
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1. Lies and deceit aren't unusual to Hull FC these days.
2. McDonnell, Pitts, Arundel I'm thinking went out after this. In came Liam Colbon and Seitamata Sa..
Don't think that evens out.
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1. Lies and deceit aren't unusual to Hull FC these days.
2. McDonnell, Pitts, Arundel I'm thinking went out after this. In came Liam Colbon and Seitamata Sa..
Don't think that evens out.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"1. Lies and deceit aren't unusual to Hull FC these days.
2. McDonnell, Pitts, Arundel I'm thinking went out after this. In came Liam Colbon and Seitamata Sa..
Don't think that evens out.'"
Your forgetting Carvell, whom is on a wedge according to the Warrington fans - whilst he's not with you any more, it's seemed like you've been struggling to move cap space around ever since he moved to you, and right royally messed you up. As won't have been cheap either, walking away from a cushy union salary. Top it off with a couple of re-signings (shaul who'd of gone from a pittance to a sl salary) and genuinely I'd be amazed if you were 200k under the cap, let alone 400k!
As a point I've been meaning to ask, why is it believed McDonnell was on a big salary? He at most can be on at saints is (clough and gardner - contract extensions for our 3 most promising youngsters) which without knowing the figures could only really be 50k - I doubt he'd take a huge wage drop to stay in the country so it can't of been that much?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"
why is it believed McDonnell was on a big salary? '"
Ask Mcrae . Also Miller is supposed to be on a decent wedge aswell.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Your forgetting Carvell, whom is on a wedge according to the Warrington fans - whilst he's not with you any more, it's seemed like you've been struggling to move cap space around ever since he moved to you, and right royally messed you up. As won't have been cheap either, walking away from a cushy union salary. Top it off with a couple of re-signings (shaul who'd of gone from a pittance to a sl salary) and genuinely I'd be amazed if you were 200k under the cap, let alone 400k!
As a point I've been meaning to ask, why is it believed McDonnell was on a big salary? He at most can be on at saints is (clough and gardner - contract extensions for our 3 most promising youngsters) which without knowing the figures could only really be 50k - I doubt he'd take a huge wage drop to stay in the country so it can't of been that much?'"
Carvell isn't with us so his salary no longer counts.
And I'm sure Shannon would rather be earning £50k than nothing!!
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| The one thing I can't get my head around regarding Radford's appointment is that Pearson gave him a three year contract.
Now, Pearson always seems fairly savvy to me when I hear him talk although I know he's still probably not up to speed on all things RL but three years for an unproven "coach"?
Surely he wouldn't have even considered that when wearing his football club owner's hat.
One year in which to prove himself would have been understandable although one year too much for me but three is just madness.
Did he not take advice from anybody?
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Carvell isn't with us so his salary no longer counts.
And I'm sure Shannon would rather be earning £50k than nothing!!'"
Well first off you don't know the arrangements with cas over whose paying carvells salary, hull might be still in part, and even if they aren't, there's every possibility that payments earlier in the year were backdated - as according to radford, you were "nearly up to the cap" when you were in talks with carvell (I can't be bothered to find the article) and signing carvell would mean "others would have to go" - but they never did ...
Your recruitment this year has baffled and confused me, constantly saying that your near to the cap, yet bringing more players in, it was always going to catch up with the team... The McDonnell situation just further confuses me (but I won't go into that)
Fwiw at the start of the year I had you down as 6-8th relatively comfortably. I don't think it's as simple as blaming one man, there seems to be a block (mental or physical) in hull that stops both teams achieving their potential which runs much deeper
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| Quote ="old frightful"The one thing I can't get my head around regarding Radford's appointment is that Pearson gave him a three year contract.
Now, Pearson always seems fairly savvy to me when I hear him talk although I know he's still probably not up to speed on all things RL but three years for an unproven "coach"?
Surely he wouldn't have even considered that when wearing his football club owner's hat.
One year in which to prove himself would have been understandable although one year too much for me but three is just madness.
Did he not take advice from anybody?'"
He can't blame nobody other than himself for this ridiculous appointment .
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I will do it myself in the short term, I reckon I cannot do any worse.'"
Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Well if Motu's collecting C.V's, my missus fits the current criteria perfectly
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To be fair I think you've got mixed up with the criteria for the position of England coach there mate!
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| I've always been a bit of a sucker for the backs against the wall mentality, backing the underdog when the majority are whipping themselves into a hysterical froth (and christ, there's a few on here).
If the owner of the club that many of us are emotionally involved with decides to stick with the current status quo then so be it.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Lee Radford's post match interview for a start!!
He said he's not going to make excuses and doesn't want to talk about why we are operating on a cap of 1.2..'"
Crumbs. Nick Barmby was sacked for less. Lucky for Radford that AP was also on the receiving end of that fall out.
2 implications are suggested by that remark:
a) That Radford and Pearson are complicit in the shortfall and have exciting plans as to how it will be spent, or
b) Radford is frustrated that Pearson is withholding the shortfall and feels by doing this Pearson is compromising his, Radfords, ability to do the best job. Viz., Pearson can be added to the list of people being offered by Radford as the reason for our woes.
Either way, I can't see AP being happy he's let it slip if we are miles under cap.
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| We're not under cap, it's radford making another excuse
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We're not under cap, it's radford making another excuse'"
An even bigger reason for Pearson to be angry at the remark, then.
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| If we are under the cap, we are not almost half a million under. And even if we were, the squad we have is still better than 12th, regardless of how much we have spent. So whatever way you look at it it's just more excuses.
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