crap..simples

Completely agree Mrs B.

2011 will be a consolidation season, lets hope for a lucky cup draw.

In a nutshell, that sums up my feelings too.
We've reached a crossroads and its time to decide which direction do we want to go in. Onwards and upwards or round & round in ever decreasing circles.

well this season has been a failure and as a club weve given time and patience to agar but hes simply not good enough, if people really think agar is the man to take us forward and competing for the top 2 and trophies again then your just as stupid as the board. off the field we bang on about how good we are then why on earth are we so crap on the field? lets spend some of this money the club make year in year out on a top class coach who will get the best out of our players

I totally agree. I just hope that should that happen we bite the bullet and get rid, rather than let him see out his contract. It's time to decide whether or not we have any ambition to be a top side.

Is that just fancy talk for write-off?

and who do you suggest to take over?????? forget top aussies or kearney,they simply wont come to fc.

You wont do anything under him. You have a pretty decent set up, some class individuals all over the pitch. Big forwards, talented back rowers, decent hooker, classy young winger, good enough pair of halves. Should have had a much better season.

yawn all you like...ive been doing it all season......

Well if it worked for Wigan it will work for us...just like when Sharp replaced Kear or when Agar replaced Sharp.....

If a player needs to be motivated for a game like today then they are not worthy of playing in that game to begin with.

They had not won anything though had they? and 80 minutes away from O/T does not make you a good team hence why they dispensed with Noble.
They appointed Maguire and guess what? they won the league and are now favourites to reach O/T.
Go figure.

the same maguire that the majority had never heard of!!! so if fc go for an aussie no-2 everyone will be happy?

We would've been forth but for a hasty decision by a ref. that given our injury situation throughout the year, yes it is a factor, we have probably over achieved. No grumbles from me, we have done well. Leed's league position flatters them greatly and they have over achieved given their weekly form.

They obviously did their homework though didn't they and appointed the right man thus far.

If evidence were needed as to Agar's real ability to motivate a team to produce a performance when it really mattered tonight was it. He's not good enough by a long chalk. We are wasting season after season with him at the helm.

but you say they wont come to hull but if the club really shows ambition and uses the money that we have im sure theres plenty of coaches that would love to come to hull, why would nathan brown go to huddersfield

I think we should aim for the Floodlit 9s and Fairplay trophy again.

Plenty of room to spit @ the Galpharm - dirty flegger.

Time to go for me.

Not a knee jerk reaction, I can accept losing but we went out with a whimper. Our attacking play tonight has probably been filmed as it will be the best cure for insomnia that I have seen.

At the end of the day there can't be many players left in the squad that Agar has not as head coach either signed or re-signed so the 'it's not his team' excuse cannot be wheeled out again. St Helens game at home aside he seems incapable of changing a game once we fall behind.

So although he seems a nice guy, for me it should be

Mr Agar

We're spending up to the cap limit, and have done with (I heard) one exception for years. There is no more money to spend on players no matter how much cash we generate.

3 years of absolute nothingness (is that a word?) under him. Time for him to go, he hasn't improved as a coach by 1%.

says it all...weve got too many crap players on good money......and who will we be signing for next season? will sharp


let the good times roll/...........NOT...

Coaches are defined by what they achieve at the end of each season. This is Agar's third 'end of season' and each has ended in disapointment. While there has been promise and hope, we only have to look at what has been achieved at Wigan and Warrington to see what can be achieved by a quality coach working with with quality players, and that reflects very badly on Mr Agar.

I dont think that anyone doubts that we have some high quality players at Hull FC but - what could we achieve with a good coach? I cant stop thinking that Warrington is where we could be! Make no mistake - the Wolves have overtaken us and are much more worthy claimants of 'top four' status than we are.

We're also rans.
We're mid table.
We're underachieving. Massively.

What are we going to do about it?

Well St Helens didn't have a problem in appointing an Australian No.2 in Royce Simmonds.