Quite an apt description for some Mods is that

Do they get paid?

toilet cleaner??

Wonder if Gentle has any input, on these new appointments?

Way things are going, we should rename our club to 'Howes FC' ,


all these new guys are all clients of Howes!!

The problem for JR is that he has now been found out. He deliberately and unashamedly bull$hitted many of the fans, and a lot of the fans believed his spin.
How are these fans now going to respect him and believe what he has to say?

Did anyone really believe his spin? I saw plenty of threads on here deriding his comments

Got agree with Jake



but most fans never believed what JR said as they knew it was spin to try and deflect critcism etc away from the B.O.D & Agar over the crap that was presented on game days etc.

Yes


I don't disagree?

Unfortuantely for JR he became the focal point of the club as the one who actually spoke. Lets face it he was only saying what he had been told to say by the old faceless wonders sat on the board.

Well I respect what he has done for the club from a marketing perspective and if we are to believe AP he has done it without any investment over the last 7 years. Perhaps with AP backing him you will see even better results.

People are too quick at times to call for people's heads on a plate. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. It might not be such a bad thing to have a little continuity in that area of the business, for the short term at least. If JR isn't up to AP's new standards I think we all know what will happen and how quickly.

Well I did not say 'most fans' I said a lot of fans.

I have meet quite a few and read quite a few comments on here, that repeated JR's comments about why we were not having success on the field. That Agar was a great coach etc...

JR surplus to requirements now for all i can see, no spin required anymore.

Except in marketing?

Apparently that just happens by itself and no actual marketing (or 'spin' as some like to call it) is required.

Hes not allowed to speak these days is he?

Not heard from him since AP and Jim did that video

But poor old JR was only doing what he was paid to do! No mention of ever challenging the utter $hite that he was expected to spout to us all or actually having a spine and a small amount of respect for the average fan.

I'm sure if Kath had told him to come to work each day stark bolok naked with "T W A T" written across his forehead, he would have done that aswell!!

How do you know whether or not he agreed with what he was asked to say or even challenged it internally?

No offence intended, but you seem to have a very naive and idealistic view of what goes on inside companies and how they deal with the outside world.

Quote ="Hutchie"Hes not allowed to speak these days is he? Not heard from him since AP and Jim did that video'" we have www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19188 www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19159 www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19107 www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19075

Quote ="Hutchie"Hes not allowed to speak these days is he? Not heard from him since AP and Jim did that video'" we have www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19188 www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19159 www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19107 www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=19075

I agree and applaud him on the marketing side of things.



I have not called for his head?

What good would it have done the club if JR had openly come out against the BOD and gone "off message"? Without a replacement regime ready to come in it would just have damaged us and made things worse. His job is to promote a positive image of FC and in trying circumstances he did that pretty well. I was just as frustrated as the next man with some of his spin towards the end but sacking a guy who can do what he did in those circumstances wouldn't make sense. Hopefully going forward he'll have some real positives to spin and not have to spend so much time firefighting.

IMO, the sheer amount of utter tripe that he constantly gave us went beyond the remit of his pay packet. The majority of us could see right through it to the point where he became a joke figure (akin to the Iraqi minister who's name escapes me) but any self respecting guy with a minimal respect for the fans, would not have continued like he did.

I have zero respect for the guy and he should go the same way as the rest of them are currently doing.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I have to say that you appear to have led a sheltered life if you think that Rule did anything out of the ordinary for someone in his position.

No matter. If AP thinks he's not doing a good job then I doubt he'll hesitate to get rid, but in the meantime it doesn't look like he's high up on any hit list.

"Sheltered life" ?? Do me a favour FFS ! Who do you think you are !

With all due respect how do you know what was asked of him and what his paypacket is?

The comment wasn't meant to offend - my apologies if it did. I'm just surprised that the pretty run-of-the-mill things that Rule did have got under your skin so much and assumed that it was down to a lack of exposure to those same things from other sources.

He really didn't do anything unexpected for someone in his position and you can come across the same stuff every day of the week.