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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"Just like you're Pro-Agar, others hold the right to have a different opinion. Just as one bad result shouldn't result in "Agar out" nor should one good result change it to an Agar love in!
My own opinion is that the league position is an improvement; but our play is dire. Can you honestly not say that we are quite possibly the most boring team in SL to watch if it wasn't for our partisanship? Agar is to blame for that. We are at full salary cap, so why aren't we producing the quality rugby league that Wire/Pies/Rhions/Saints demonstrated over the weekend? Only one man responsible for that.'"
Our 1st half performance yesterday clearly was not dire...our 2nd half performance against saints was clearly not dire, our performance against KR was clearly not dire....Oh and let us not forget we managed this without our 2 h/backs, lack of h/backs forces us to play basic rugby on most occasions.
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| So on three occasions we weren't SL's most boring grinders! The squad is Agar's as we were constantly told; so it is he who has failed to furnish the squad with enough versatility and class to withstand the absences of Horne and Long.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"So on three occasions we weren't SL's most boring grinders! The squad is Agar's as we were constantly told; so it is he who has failed to furnish the squad with enough versatility and class to withstand the absences of Horne and Long.'"
He clearly has not failed because we have won games without them both being on the pitch, also without our other (more) important signings Fitz & O'Meley, but don,t let that fact get in the way of your argument!!
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| As you will see from above my complaint has been the style of play; not the results.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"As you will see from above my complaint has been the style of play; not the results.'"
Fair point, but you have to take on board the fact that the h/backs (most creative players) are not on the field...which reduces our play to basic (safer) rugby, although to be fair we have on occasions delivered some entertaining stuff without them on the pitch, and tbf to Agar this has worked as we are still in 4th, it may not be the most entertaining stuff for the fans, but we need to finish as high as possible for the play-offs.
We can hope they are both back in time for the play-off,s.
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| Hopefully so.
If I offered you a swap today, Agar for Potter/McLennan/Maguire/Smith would you take it? Or would you stick with the West Yorks Wonder?
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| wow another agar out thread never saw this coming after our biggest win this season and first ever win at the stoop
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"Hopefully so.
If I offered you a swap today, Agar for Potter/McLennan/Maguire/Smith would you take it? Or would you stick with the West Yorks Wonder?'"
Would take Maguire as most would, but I have accepted we have Agar for the next 2 seasons, and I hope for the sake of my club he can get us some silverware
Be honest did you think we would be 4th at this point of the season under Agar ?
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| Quote ="Danny 2"wow another agar out thread never saw this coming after our biggest win this season and first ever win at the stoop'"
Your league table needs updating!
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| not end of the week yet
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| Quote ="Danny 2"not end of the week yet
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Wishful thinking Danny
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"My own opinion is that the league position is an improvement; but our play is dire. Can you honestly not say that we are quite possibly the most boring team in SL to watch if it wasn't for our partisanship? .'"
Have to agree with this. I have a stack of games on my SKY box that we've won and I can't even be bothered to watch them because they're so dull.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Fair point, but you have to take on board the fact that the h/backs (most creative players) are not on the field...which reduces our play to basic (safer) rugby, although to be fair we have on occasions delivered some entertaining stuff without them on the pitch, and tbf to Agar this has worked as we are still in 4th, it may not be the most entertaining stuff for the fans, but we need to finish as high as possible for the play-offs.
We can hope they are both back in time for the play-off,s.'"
Is there anywhere online where I can check which halfs have played in each game this season? Would be interesting to see how many games long and horne have played in, how many combos we've had and the success rate with different halfs playing
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Is there anywhere online where I can check which halfs have played in each game this season? Would be interesting to see how many games long and horne have played in, how many combos we've had and the success rate with different halfs playing'"
Hull FC.com shows team sheets but you'd have to look at each one individually. Richard Agar said at the fans forum that Horne & Long had only played 4 times together, Saints away (won), Huddersfield home (won), Wigan away (Lost), Rovers away (won).
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Is there anywhere online where I can check which halfs have played in each game this season? Would be interesting to see how many games long and horne have played in, how many combos we've had and the success rate with different halfs playing'"
I think they have played 5 games together earlier in the season..Saints, KR unable to remember the other 3..
Although I think the Crusaders was one and we were pants in that one.
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| Quote ="Shirl"Hull FC.com shows team sheets but you'd have to look at each one individually. Richard Agar said at the fans forum that Horne & Long had only played 4 times together, Saints away (won), Huddersfield home (won), Wigan away (Lost), Rovers away (won).'"
Good stats those, although I thought they played together for the Crusaders game ?
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| From the Wigan programme and adding in that game and yesterday:
Horne/Long (4)
Washbrook/Horne (3)
Turner/Horne (3)
Turner/Long (2)
Washbrook/Long (7)
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Nine half back partnerships in 25 games.
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| Quote ="bringbackbuck"As you will see from above my complaint has been the style of play; not the results.'" Yet more evidence, if any was needed, that people would much rather look good and lose than look bad and win.
As long as we're at the right end of the table and give it a good go, i'm not really bothered about our style of play.
Obviously people will say we should demand more, being Hull FC we clearly have a god given right to be top of the league and winning everything.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Good stats those, although I thought they played together for the Crusaders game ?'"
long was injured for the crusaders game
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"From the Wigan programme and adding in that game and yesterday:
Horne/Long (4)
Washbrook/Horne (3)
Turner/Horne (3)
Turner/Long (2)
Washbrook/Long (7)
Turner/Washbrook (1)
Washbrook/Berrigan (3)
Tansey/Horne (1)
Berrigan/Horne (1)
Nine half back partnerships in 25 games.'"
How many games has each partnership won and lost?
Interesting that we've only had 4 games all season where we've had neither of our 2 first choice half backs "on the island"
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| Look at the stats rlfans page.
They've played 4, weeks 1,2,6 and 9
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| The OP certainly seems to have gotten a few bites!
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