hope the restructuring that Peason has mentioned includes a new CEO with a knowledge of rugby league and players valuations, Clarke must go too as he has made mistake after mistake rewarding players with silly contracts!

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Rowley and Holdbrook would my two choices, don't think Rowley will leave Salford and can't see us attracting Holdbrook without some promise of investment.

good sense of humour like that from a red & white

Holbrook assistant at Roosters now isn't he ?

Just why on earth he would he leave his homeland ( again ) to take on our basket case of a club.

Last time here he won everything again & again at Saints.

Fantasy land !!

I go away for a two week holiday and come back to this!



Still gathering my thoughts together so will post again when I have caught up properly.

Yep, very unlikely, will probably get another NRL gig, was unfairly sacked at Titans, who have got alot worse since he left.

The same reason he left Sydney before..
If the offer is right..

Who , someone like Malcolm Walker …

Would never wish any one to lose their job, however this is the right decision. Obviously Tony didn’t come here expecting this, however despite other factors not helping his situation like reduced investment, poor recruitment and player ability/effort, you would expect a Coach to find a way to overcome most of these issues. However, basic games plans and structures were either not in place or executed and the initial buck has got to sit with the Coach.

Obviously, there may be further changes in the near future. In the mean time all eyes must stay on the players. Some have played for Hull under 4 different Coaches, with similar outcomes, poor runs and big defeats. That is not a coincidence.

I’m sure Tony never sent the players out with a game plan consisting of, keep it tight for the first 50 seconds, hit them with high shot and don’t forget to give the opposition 6 again just after a penalty. Much of that is down to the players.

I still believe this playing squad is not good enough and quite a few need to move on, some as soon as possible as they can’t be a part of the future of the club and add no value to it.

Hopefully any restructuring is good news, however let’s see what the next few days brings……..

Im a little shocked he's been given the boot tbh, I thought AP would have tried to ride this mess out but sadly not with Smith in charge . I do feel a bit for Tony Smith with what he's had to work with . I just hope the axe will continue to swing with the current rubbish we have within the squad .

Right here's my thoughts...

I said back when I joined the forum that our current situation is a bigger issue than the coach. For want of a better term it is the culture (yes, I know some people hate that word) at the club that is the problem. You can't just lay blame on one particular area of the club with this because this has been going on for years. Coach after coach, player group after player group, CEO after CEO and even owner after owner and it's still there. So in that sense, it's once again harsh that it is the coach that has once again taken the fall.

But if we look at it purely on results and what we are seeing on the field, then it is right that he went. Performances have been dreadful and there's been no sign of them getting any better. We should have been seeing improvements by now given that he is into his second season and if anything, things have gotten worse. It's very hard to defend him over what we have seen game to game.

Hopefully whoever is next can give us an uplift. It's probably too late to salvage anything this season other than restoring some pride in the shirt and badge both in the plays and us supporters in the stand. Long term though, I still maintain that there is a bigger issue to address by the club and if they don't figure out how to solve it, the next coach will have just as much luck as Smith and all those that came before him.

nu brown has left the building folks

Seems a weird one, but I suppose, he is one overseas player someone might take and he is unlikely to be here next season.

Who plays hooker, Houghton and Smith, maybe a chance for Balmforth under a new set up.

Going to me mad the next two weeks.

if what the noise says is true expect the worst
and i mean the worst

I mean the worst would be Hull FC RIP, and that’s not happening.

What’s the ‘noise’?

I guess it was inevitable given the state we are in even thiugh it's not all Smith's fault - far from it. I'm surprised at the timing though.

I was really pleased when he was appointed - a vastly experienced head coach with a track record. Just hasn't worked out.

A penny for Gareth Ellis' thoughts today.

Ignore the Rovers troll.

Those are the rumours going round, Nu Brown asked for a meeting with Clarky to explain what a shambles the coaching has been and he’s booked a flight back on Sunday “allegedly”

Understood. A bit rusty on here, been a while. Blocked.

Strange if he has, as he was one of the better ones - especially when in his correct position. If he has gone then it must be about money.

Ellis could/would have been our interim with Cummins…

Ellis said he didn't enjoy coaching anymore didn't he.

On another note, wonder if Davidson has gone?

Also said this after being let go, and wasn’t planning on leaving…

Thank god he's gone. I never liked him and never wanted him at my club.

No surprise he's failed. I have noticed where this myth of him being a top coach comes from. His coaching career:

Huddersfield.- got them relegated then used days mo eyes t9 get them promoted again

Leeds - got out thoght by John Kear in the CC final, won a lot less thN the clearly useless Brian mcdermott. My granny could have coached that group to a grand final win

GB/England - failure and much worse than macnamara

Warr8ngton - couldn't win the gF despite all of the money and resources at his disposal

Rovers - nearly got them relegated in his first season

Us - makes radford look like a coaching genius

We've been abysmal for most of his tenure. It looks like the players only see each other on match days.

With a limited playing group we need to be super fit and defensively sound. We're neither and he has rightly paid the price