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| Quote ="weaver93"Rather have Lovegrove than Elima.'"
Agreed!
Hearing that we are being linked with Trent Merrin along with Galloway and Kite in our search for an NRL prop.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Turner is looking more and more like he won't be missed. Martin and Aspinwall aren't exactly high quality players either.
I'm also underwhelmed at some of the names being floated but let's not get carried away. Yet.'"
Elima is a better prop than Aspinwall, that would be an improvement tbh.
You missed the fun and games last night Kosh, check the mods board.
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| sometimes you get some success withouth having a quality player in every position what we need is a good balanced squad warrington and wigan have a balance of a couple of quality players and some good squad players some very average players that i would not have at fc they just have a solid structure built there and all play for eachother something we was doing and now arent
elima,crookes,arundel,ellis,mcdonnell,pitts,a top stand off and overseas powerhouse prop and add the rest of the players we have i think that would be a good team
pearson has said theres more big names to come so i trust in that but i dont see were hes going to get these so called big names from theres not many about without spending alot of money on them
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| Thinking of Elima, he's a beter prop then Aspinwall and O'Carroll i'd say so for instance if we went with Lynch, NRL prop, Elima, Watts/O'carroll and Bowden that wouldn't be so bad.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Turner is looking more and more like he won't be missed. Martin and Aspinwall aren't exactly high quality players either.
I'm also underwhelmed at some of the names being floated but let's not get carried away. Yet.'"
With regards to Turner your spot on, he's gone from 'must keep' to 'must offload' in the space of a few games.
You can count on one hand the number of decent games he's had for us, most of them came at the beginning of this season.
Unfortunately for Saints I think they've got rid of Shenton only to make the same mistake with Turner, both have flattered to deceive, received big contracts and will ultimately disappoint at a top club.
The game on Sunday summed him up for me, no desire when the chips are down and thus becomes a liability when you need him to step up most.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"IM NOT, ALL IM SAYING IS WE COULD QUITE POSSIBLY LOSE, MOA,OMELEY,MANU,TURNER,MARTIN,ASPINWALL......
and there being replaced by ellis,arundel. and err....hang on a minute, oliver elima
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Ellis is better than Manu and Arundel is as good as Turner. Those are the only confirmed departures/arrivals, as far as I'm aware. I think looking at an incomplete picture is counter-productive, anyway. Once the club issue a statement saying that the recruitment is completed for 2013, I'll start getting worried if it's necessary to do so. I think in the meantime, I think we have to allow McRae and Gentle to do their jobs and hope/believe that they'll sign the very best players available to them in the positions we need to improve.
Elima is by no means a bad player, I think it just depends how Gentle sees him fitting in. If indeed there's any truth in the rumour at all.
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| im my opiion, when AP took charge i thought we would be signing top draw players... he stated the siging of ellis was just the start. and ellis is a great siging dont get me wrong, but since then weve signed jay pitts, who couldnt get in leeds team, joe arundel who lets be fair hasnt really set the world alight this year, maybe through injury i dont know....
and we have lost manu,turner, possibly moa and maybe tickle if rumour about widnes is correct... these are all first choice players, ones of which will be hard to replace especially manu.... not exactly setting the world alight in player recruitment in my opinion...from the outset, we need quality to add to the quality we already have, but weve lost serious quality in manu and thats a fact... i dont think mcrae or gentle ever saw him leaving if im honest and im sure it was a massive blow to both when he stated his intetions same as turner....
to move on we need to be siging players that would get into wigans,sts,wire first team.... and currently we arnet, hence why we cant compete for trophys.... how waire are under the salary cap is beyond me, something in which the RL have to have a seriuos look at, there staring 13 is near-on full interantional standard, which is amazing if were all supposed to be singing of the same song sheet etc, if it is all above board then the money people at teams such as ourselves need to have a proper reality check and ask why they can get the players of the calibre of monoghan x2 , morley,atkins,hodgeson etc etc and we have infirior players...
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"im my opiion, when AP took charge i thought we would be signing top draw players... he stated the siging of ellis was just the start. and ellis is a great siging dont get me wrong, but since then weve signed jay pitts, who couldnt get in leeds team, joe arundel who lets be fair hasnt really set the world alight this year, maybe through injury i dont know....
and we have lost manu,turner, possibly moa and maybe tickle if rumour about widnes is correct... these are all first choice players, ones of which will be hard to replace especially manu.... not exactly setting the world alight in player recruitment in my opinion...from the outset, we need quality to add to the quality we already have, but weve lost serious quality in manu and thats a fact... i dont think mcrae or gentle ever saw him leaving if im honest and im sure it was a massive blow to both when he stated his intetions same as turner....
to move on we need to be siging players that would get into wigans,sts,wire first team.... and currently we arnet, hence why we cant compete for trophys.... how waire are under the salary cap is beyond me, something in which the RL have to have a seriuos look at, there staring 13 is near-on full interantional standard, which is amazing if were all supposed to be singing of the same song sheet etc, if it is all above board then the money people at teams such as ourselves need to have a proper reality check and ask why they can get the players of the calibre of monoghan x2 , morley,atkins,hodgeson etc etc and we have infirior players...'"
Spot on!!
Dont know what is going on, what people are saying that Ellis is a replacement for Manu, is rubbish, he was NEVER meant as a replacement, linked now with Elima, what a joke, if that is the level of player we are looking at then you can kiss goodbye of ever competing with the like of Wigan and Wire,
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| Fui Fui Moi Moi rumoured to be interesting Catalans - should we be interested to replace Moa?
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"eusa_clap.gif Spot on!!
Dont know what is going on, what people are saying that Ellis is a replacement for Manu, is rubbish, he was NEVER meant as a replacement, linked now with Elima, what a joke, if that is the level of player we are looking at then you can kiss goodbye of ever competing with the like of Wigan and Wire,'"
You do know that Wigan are losing Carmont, Finch, Leuluai, Lima and who are they being linked with!? That's right - Matty Smith. The quanlity of player will decrease in SL next year.
Cant beleive you are slagging off the club regards recruitment based on ub-substantiated rumours
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Quote ="weaver93"Rather have Lovegrove than Elima.'"
Agreed!
Hearing that we are being linked with Trent Merrin along with Galloway and Kite in our search for an NRL prop.'"
Mertin signed new deal couple months ago
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"You do know that Wigan are losing Carmont, Finch, Leuluai, Lima and who are they being linked with!? That's right - Matty Smith. The quanlity of player will decrease in SL next year.
Cant beleive you are slagging off the club regards recruitment based on ub-substantiated rumours'"
so your happy with the clubs recruitment / retention so far for next season??
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Quote ="PAUL M"Quote ="weaver93"Rather have Lovegrove than Elima.'"
Agreed!
Hearing that we are being linked with Trent Merrin along with Galloway and Kite in our search for an NRL prop.'"
Mertin signed new deal couple months ago'"
Merrin i meant
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"so your happy with the clubs recruitment / retention so far for next season??
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Turner - happy he has left
Arundel - happy he has arrived
Ellis - ecstatic that he has signed
Manu - disapointed that he has gone but we have had him during his 'peak' years
Overall - quite happy
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Fui Fui Moi Moi rumoured to be interesting Catalans - should we be interested to replace Moa?'"
no, the guy is finished, this is my problem, we lose a top player in moa, with his best years ahead of him and sign moi moi who's well past his best... the mind boggles
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| Hardly the club's fault that he wants to be nearer his family though is it?? and we havent signed moi moi, not even linked with him so why slag the club? Until a name is announced it is all just a load of guessing games
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Turner - happy he has left
Arundel - happy he has arrived
Ellis - ecstatic that he has signed
Manu - disapointed that he has gone but we have had him during his 'peak' years
Overall - quite happy'"
So by that logic somebody else has had Ellis's peak years then
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Turner - happy he has left
Arundel - happy he has arrived
Ellis - ecstatic that he has signed
Manu - disapointed that he has gone but we have had him during his 'peak' years
Overall - quite happy'"
I agree with this, lets wait and see what standard of signings we get and enjoy whats left of this season. PG has always stated it's a "work in progress" and Adam has said we will get this club back up to where it should be, I'm not gonna argue with either of them.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"no, the guy is finished, this is my problem, we lose a top player in moa, with his best years ahead of him and sign moi moi who's well past his best... the mind boggles'"
You do realise it hasn't been confirmed Moa is leaving don't you? (I know its highly likely that he will btw) We also haven't signed MoiMoi so you should calm down .
Since you are so disgraced by the RUMOURED signings who would you suggest we bring in? Realistic targets preferably.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Hardly the club's fault that he wants to be nearer his family though is it?? and we havent signed moi moi, not even linked with him so why slag the club? Until a name is announced it is all just a load of guessing games'"
im GUESSING we havent got a replacement for manu anywhere near the quality of willie... and we havent got a recognised fullback for next year either,,,just guessing tho.........
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"im GUESSING we havent got a replacement for manu anywhere near the quality of willie... and we havent got a recognised fullback for next year either,,,just guessing tho.........'"
Ellis!!!???
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"im GUESSING we havent got a replacement for manu anywhere near the quality of willie... and we havent got a recognised fullback for next year either,,,just guessing tho.........'"
Yeah but dont forget we have had his best years, he is past it, thats why Saints have signed him
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| I can't believe we haven't finsihed our recruitment yet. I mean its June now we only have 8 more months till the start of next season. Not enough time IMO.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Ellis!!!???'"
Ellis Was NEVER meant as a replacement for Manu FFS
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