I don’t think a miracle worker but going to have proven winners and players from the nrl who won’t take this crap.

I know…I can read

…I wouldn’t know about the game,following it on hull live and bbc sport as away for the weekend…much more enjoyable and like I have previously said,I have found better things to do now…pains me to say it but I don’t miss going

Should be level here, if Lane and Martin scored. Got to kicking to QQ, think he has dropped about everyone.

Young kids having a dig and Briscoe, Eseh and Ashworth making a difference.

Some terrible defence though

Absolute sh!show!

That try from the scrum did me, why do we have Sao and Aydin defending there from the scrum?

As bad as we have been, we’d still be winning if the ref did his job.

No excuses, just a fact. Their second and third tries were the product of poor reffing.

Got back into it, hoping we kick on second half.

Wonder who sets that up in training

we all know apart from the coach that Sao is not a second row and never has been
The worst thing for Sao was scoring that try against England for Samoa which made people think he could play there
Play him as a front row or dont play him at all

No we wouldnt, our defence is absolutely awful, that's nothing do with the ref

That spell with an extra man has done us, they have 11 men and we didn't pass it wide one.

Charles is no where near ready, poor decision making this half.

Hoy is a ripping us to bits, we have no one of his class

Pathetic is the only word I can use.

Gardiner is terrible and as much as like Moy and think he will be a good player, like Litten a couple of years ago, played too many games

Given up winning, why not go short

Really not impressed with Gardiner seems out his depth at this level.

I'm lost for words at how utterly gash this team is. Beyond terrible it's like they don't know how to even do the basics

Fair play to Hoy, Smith ruined in at Hull.

Always said Gardiner will never make a S/L player.Destined for the Championship or League 1
Moy is a butterfingers and has to learn to keep hold of the ball.
This strategy of the club signing experienced average players on 2/3 year contracts in the hope that five or six of the younger players will come through and make regular first team players is pie in the sky and doomed to failure.
Martin and Barron are the only ones i can see will make it

Read that they tried a barge over when 13 v 11…We all know Charles is nowhere near ready but what’s smith doing as he is senior and should know.Our spine today was this and compared to next year

Moy….Rapana
Smith….Abdul
Charles..Seizer
Houghton/Balmforth….Cust/Borough/Balmforth
Aydin…Asiata

People may Query the recruitment but would next years spine be better……hell yes and they have got the know how how to play the situation

Smith ruined more than Hoy at the club

And there is the dig about contracts….you just can’t help yourself can you…why is it doomed to failure….it can’t be any worse than what it is…end of the day…you don’t like Pearson,Myler,none of the signings and I bet Cartwright cops it when he gets off the plane as he didn’t walk down the steps properly

Respectfully, at that point - yes we would have.

Anwyay, poor defence and lack of ideas and composure let us down in the end. Good to see us come back from a 24-4 deficit to make a game of it, but ultimately we’re not good enough.

100% that was the moment - score there we would have been 26-24 up, with 15mins left and up on players.

Cas got back into it after that.

Thought Balmforth did well but he isn't a 70 minute hooker, Moy has work to do, particularly his link up play, seems to catch before drawing a man.

Charles is no where near ready, Grix should have taken him out of this game.

Also played Aydin too many minutes, starting to miss tackles then sin bin, hardly played Ashworth (unless injured), Sao must have been injured too.

Crazy how many injuries we get every game.

Id try and sign Eseh and release Sao.

Wingers were great, need to use them more with their speed and height.

Id rather have Laidlaw than Gardiner

I couldn't believe that set, probably the dumbest set I've seen, 11 men and we didn't try once to go wide, last tackle play pass to Ese Ese.

isnt he allowed an opinion or dont you like the possibility that hes right